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Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:02 pm

What are the best scoring settings for a punter?

Here is the way it is set up in a couple of ESPN leagues I'm in now:

Average
33.9 or less: -3
34-36: -2
36-38: -1
40-42: 1
42-44: 2
44+: 3

Blocked Punt: -1
Touchback: -1
Fair Catch: 1
Inside 20: 1
Inside 10: 2

In particular, does it not make sense to use average distance?
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby Vlad » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:44 pm

the best way would be to not have a punter on your roaster ldo
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Punters don't do any harm, and they make the game that much more realistic. No?
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby dream_017 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:38 pm

TomBrooklyn wrote:Punters don't do any harm, and they make the game that much more realistic. No?

Are those stats easily accessible? # of fair catch, etc.
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:05 pm

On ESPN the stats are and points get applied automatically for whatever is selected to be scorable.
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby Vlad » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:32 pm

TomBrooklyn wrote:Punters don't do any harm, and they make the game that much more realistic. No?


not really...plus it is extremely situational ,so u can exactly measure it...
Example 33.9 yds punt is fair catched on the 5 yd line( we'll say there was a lot of wind so they didnt wanted to try to kick a FG) is awesome,but will be scored -1pt for your team

Ex 2. If you are NOT scoring net yds : 78 yrd punt is returned for a TD,so your punter will get bunch of points ,when in fact his team got scored on...

i can get you some more examples...
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:16 pm

Hmm. I'll have to think about those things.
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby The Lung » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:59 pm

Seriously? Punters?

I've been doing fantasy football since 2001, on this website since 2004, and this is the first I've EVER heard of punters being utilized.
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby TomBrooklyn » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:54 pm

There seems to be little love for punters. I wonder if they have an inferiority complex.

What about not scoring for distance since as Vlad pointed out in some situations an ideal punt could be purposely held up shorter than possible to try to pin the defence deep.

How about just scoring for punts inside the 10 and 20, for fair catches, and a small negative for touchbacks.

Maybe
Inside 10: 1
Inside 20: .5
Fair Catch: .5
Touchback: -.5

As far as runbacks, I don't think that should be on the head of the punter.

The above scoring wouldn't have a big effect on overall scores anyway, but including the punter seems to me to add a little diversity to the team. A pinch of spice.
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Re: Punter, Scoring, What's Best Way? Ave Distance?

Postby iamgregg » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:17 am

The Lung wrote:Seriously? Punters?

I've been doing fantasy football since 2001, on this website since 2004, and this is the first I've EVER heard of punters being utilized.


I've seen Punters discussed a few times, but I've never really seen a feasible scoring system produced. I think it's trying to be too cute.

How about just scoring for punts inside the 10 and 20, for fair catches, and a small negative for touchbacks.

Maybe
Inside 10: 1
Inside 20: .5
Fair Catch: .5
Touchback: -.5


If you're going to do it that's the only way you can really.

I'm still not sure I'd advise it. People would just choose the punters that punt the most, i.e. the ones on the worst teams. Just think it's a bit pointless really.

As far as runbacks, I don't think that should be on the head of the punter.


I disagree with this. Sure coverage is often the reason for run backs, but a bad punt can leave the run back uncoverable.

The above scoring wouldn't have a big effect on overall scores anyway, but including the punter seems to me to add a little diversity to the team. A pinch of spice.


I think the best way to do that is to come up with some creative scoring for existing positions, rather than experimenting wiht a position that's pretty hard to find a correlation between fantasy scoring and player performance.
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