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Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby baddhipp2 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:16 am

I have Big time dilima,While it looks like a no brainer It's actually a tuff decision. I need 2 Keepers from these 3 players MJD , Forte and P.manning.. I have MJd plugged in already Now my tuff decison is Manning or Forte. While most would say Forte , You might change your mind based on our point system...

1pt/25 pass yds, 6pts/pass td and 10pt bonus for 330 pass yds

1pt/10 rush yds, 1/ppr and 10pt bonus/ 135 rush yds

sidenote : There has been at least 5 Qb's in our top 10 points in are league in the last 5 years......

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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby cincypalmer » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:24 pm

Would probably all depend on how many guys you start at what positon but i would probably stick with Peyton Manninh becasue of the way your point system is setup.

My league consists of 8 teams. We keep all players every year. Team rosters cannot exceed 28 players excluding defense. Every year we have a 3 round entry draft with the bottom 4 teams being in a lottery for the 1st overall pick.We start 2 qbs, 3rbs, 3 wrs, 2tes and 1 d. Basic point system..1 point 25 yards qb..1 point 10 yards rb/wr/te rush or recieving. 6 points for all tds run/throw/catch...minus 2 for int/fum.. At the end of the year each team draws a player from a hat and that player becomes a free agent and is put into a silent auction. My team consists of the following:
manning-romo-warner-shaubb-kitna
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peterson-parker-stewart-taylor-benson-julious jones-graham-micheal bush
danials-winslow-witten
baltimore-chicago.

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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby TruNinerFan » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:59 pm

I would keep Forte and MJD. It is getting harder and harder to find Rb's who are on the field for 3 downs and not in danger of losing carries to anyone. Forte and MJD are those guys and they are too valuble to let go. You may not get another QB who puts up the same numbers as Manning, but you can draft a Rivers, Rodgers or McNabb who will put up very solid numbers.
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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby baddhipp2 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:13 am

Anyone think that forte could be a one it wonder, like caddy williams, afew years back? Thats why i'm cosidering Manning, he's Money.............
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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby FantasySportsMaven » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:21 am

Forte and MJD. No RBBC there.

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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby TruNinerFan » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:54 am

baddhipp2 wrote:Anyone think that forte could be a one it wonder, like caddy williams, afew years back? Thats why i'm cosidering Manning, he's Money.............


Of course Forte could be a 1 year wonder, but I think you have to take a chance that he won't be. Like I stressed earlier RB's that are not in RBBC's are very hard to find. Forte is going to get all the carries, plus he catches the ball. You willl be able to find a QB who will throw 25-30 TD's.
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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby Hank_Scorpio » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:10 pm

I agree with others here; it's too hard to find every-down RB's these days and Forte/MJD are easily top 5 Fantasy RB's, especially in PPR as they were 1-2 in receptions by RB's last season! Regardless of what you think of Manning, I think the Colts are going in the wrong direction and he has seen better days.

The bigger question is; where is your pick in the 1st round and what QB can you expect to get? Is there a possibility Peyton Manning will be available for you to draft?

Warner, Rivers, Brees, McNabb, Rodgers & Cutler all finished ahead of Manning in Fantasy stats in 2008 -- and then there's the return of Tom Brady in 2009. You could take a chance on Tony Romo, Mat Schaub, Matt Cassel or Matt Ryan as well. That's 11 other QB's to choose from.

I wouldn't worry about the 10 point bonus for 330+ yards. Manning went over 330 yards just once, 364 yards in week 16 @ Jacksonville. And that was only worth something if you were in the league championship game in most formats.

Comparably, Brees went over 330 yards 8 times last year, Warner 6 times, Cutler 5 times, McNabb 3 times, Rivers 3 times, Cassel 3 times, Romo 2 times (missed 3 starts and had 320 and 321 yards in 2 other games), Schaub 2 times (missed 5 starts), Rodgers and Ryan 0 times.

I say keep Forte and MJD, and draft the best QB available with your first draft pick. I think there's a much bigger drop-off in the RB you'll get in the first round if you lose Forte or MJD than the drop-off between Manning and one of the above QB's, the QB difference could be unnoticeable.
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Re: Important Keeper Question, Forte ,MJD, P.Manning

Postby Indibuck » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:16 pm

Forte and MJD, with Manning a distant 3rd.

Unless you start 2 QBs (which you don't), I have a very hard time telling people to keep a QB. It all stems from relative scarcity at the RB position versus the QB position. I understand that QBs score a lot of points, but ALL the QBs score a lot of points. You can draft a QB in your first round or 2nd round (I would wait until the 2nd as I try to secure a legit WR1 in round one); even if it's not Manning, you can likely get a QB comparable to him.

Now you have 2 stud RBs (that are EVERY DOWN guys, a growing rarity in football), a WR1 like a Colston, and a top-10 QB. Unless you draft at 1.1 or 1.2, there is no way you will be able to get this type of squad keeping Manning.

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