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Postby baddhipp2 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:30 pm

Sup Fellas, I'm in a 12man, 2 man keeper league. We can start 3 RB's but the point system favors Qb's too. so the real question is if i should keep Forte or Manning? I already decided too keep MJD
So my roster looks like this *I Got S.jackson by trade....*****

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RB - MJD
RB- S.JAX
RB
WR
WR
TE

So who too keep . Manning or Forte

Point system

1pt / 25 yds passing
6pts / all td's
1pt / rec
1pt / 10 rush yds

Bonus
10 pts / 135 rush yds
10pts/ 330 passyds

Best avilable rb's - L.T, Slaton, B.jacobs, Addai,Gore, P.thomas, R.Brown
Best available QB's - Rivers, Mcnabb, A.Rodgers, Romo, Schaub, Palmer, Ryan

Qb's - At least 5 Yr's have finished in the top 10 in our final points in the last 5 years, thats why i'm thinking manning too.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby mattb47 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:54 pm

If 5 QBs finish in the top 10 then it doesn't change how QBs are valued in comparison with each other which means that it doesn't change their value at all. Quality RBs are still the harder ones to find and with the list of the QBs available in the draft, I think this is an easy decision to keep SJax and MJD.

Remember..."QB friendly" leagues are friendly for ALL QBs which means that they aren't necessarily any more valuable than normal...the only thing that changes how valuable a QB might be is if you start 2 QBs or if other positions are just so incredibly underpowered that the best QB wins. That isn't the case here so keep the RBs.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby TruNinerFan » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:37 pm

This one is a no brainer, keep MJD and Forte. You will be able to draft a QB who will throw for plenty of yards and TD's (Romo, Rodgers, Rivers). But, it is very difficult to find Rb's who rush for a lot of yards, catch the ball, score Td's and are not involved in RBBC.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby bungle613 » Sat May 02, 2009 12:16 am

Forte and it is not even close.

Forte, MJD and SJax as your keepers and you can start all 3 is a very nice way to start the season.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby SheaColandri » Sun May 10, 2009 9:01 pm

Please explain these "best available" players. Are they available as FA's or thru trades?

As for QB values, if I read this correctly you have something like large 300+ pa yd bonuses. Thus not all QB values are enhanced equally. This means you must stick with the studs who play in a pass-happy offense - Rivers, Rogers, Romo, Peyton, Palmer & Warner for example. Keep Forte, he's likely to have even better numbers this season.

If you can trade before the draft without the traded players counting against your 2 keepers, I'd be tempted to package S-Jax & Manning for, say, L.T. & Palmer. I don't have enough info to be adamant though.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby Indibuck » Sun May 10, 2009 10:11 pm

Unless you start 2 QBs, this is a no-brainer.


MJD and Forte... both top 5 backs.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby Poe » Mon May 11, 2009 9:09 am

Too many make the mistake of ranking Peyton based on his record-setting season a few years ago. When you look at his productivity in last few years and compare that to other productive QB's you'll see little variation, making his 'name' more valued than his realized value. The often unmentioned value of Peyton is his durability and consistency, however, as we all grow older, the chances of injury rise. Being a keeper league, the value of youth is premium. Forte is young, proven and has a high upside in franchise who historically relies on defense and a running game. I'd use Peyton's popularity to trade for a younger player you'll foresee keeping a few years down the line.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby LegendoftheFall » Mon May 11, 2009 11:40 am

so do you have to keep SJax? Regardless, id keep forte and MJD. Manning wasnt even the top QB last year.

every year there's less and less 1 back teams and you have 3 guaranteed to get max # of carries.(barring injuries, esp to SJax) You can always find a QB, but there are only going to be about 10-15 one-back teams this year. with 3 RB places on each fantasy team. you will have a HUGE advantage to be starting 3 RBs that dont split carries. grab the best QB early in the draft (should be able to get a top 10 QB) and you'll be set regardless of WR's.

PS: i also like the idea of packaging 2 of these (manning and SJax) if possible and getting an even better RB. find a team that only has 1-2 good keepers and offer those 2 for his best one.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby thriftyrocker » Mon May 11, 2009 9:35 pm

Not to be devil's advocate, but

chances you'll draft a QB as good as Peyton: 0%

chances you'll draft a RB as good as Forte: 90%

Since you're keeping 2 other RBs, I'd lock up the QB and draft LT or Moreno.

With your roster I'd trade Forte for a pick in a second.
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Re: Fort, MJD,,P.Manning- need 2 keepers

Postby haloswin2002 » Mon May 11, 2009 11:23 pm

thriftyrocker wrote:Not to be devil's advocate, but

chances you'll draft a QB as good as Peyton: 0%

chances you'll draft a RB as good as Forte: 90%

Since you're keeping 2 other RBs, I'd lock up the QB and draft LT or Moreno.

With your roster I'd trade Forte for a pick in a second.


So you think there is a 90% chance of drafting numbers comparable to the #2 fantasy back and 0% chance of matching the numbers of the 5th rated QB?
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