1.01 for Colston?

[mattb47]

I'm sorry...but Wells being the most talented prospect since AD? Really? He's not even the most talented RB prospect in this draft...

And Hank, I stand corrected...your newest "most ridiculous argument" I've heard is now about Beanie shutting it down for the season to save himself for the NFL...that might be the single most outlandish and unsubstantiated claim I've ever heard on these forums...I look forward to the next argument that defies common logic.

[LS2throwed]

He has the highest upside of any back in the draft -- he is arguably as talented a prospect as there has been since AP. And in an offense like AZ, he should have a considerable amount of red zone opportunities. And no, Hightower will not be the designated goal line back over Wells.


I will say this... I think there have been better years to have the 1.1 rookie pick. There are a lot of question marks with EVERY top rookie. Why wouldn't you go with the guy that gives you the greatest upside?

Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Chris Johnson are all better prospects, and even Moreno is from this draft so that's a stretch...Beanie could end up better, but as far as a prospect he's down the totem pole...Had he come out in 2008 he probably doesn't even make the 1st round.


I agree with you though on the point of if you have the 1.01 why not take the high upside guy...I've always said Beanie has tremendous upside but that doesn't always get you where you wanna go in dynasties.


McFadden had tremendous upside too, but do you think those McFadden owners would gladly trade him straight up for Kevin Smith and Kevin Forte? So you really shouldn't put too much stock into potential, it obviously means alot but when there are alot of concerns to go with it you want to balance that out.

[Hank_Scorpio]

Just to clarify, I had read/heard where Wells was being conservative last year because he didn't want any injury risk to affect his NFL draft status. He has 11 siblings and wanted to provide for his family.

Here's what Rob Rang of nfldraftscout wrote about Wells last November; "If he can prove he's healthy, (his foot's) not going to be a big deal at all. Last year with Jonathan Stewart, there was a lot of talk about how healthy he was, and he had postseason surgery and his grade didn't diminish much because that kid can flat out play. Same thing with Beanie Wells - he can flat out play.
"I think he's the best back in the draft. The one guy who would get a little bit of talk would be Knowshon Moreno from Georgia (a redshirt sophomore who could declare for the draft), and he's very dynamic but he doesn't have the top end speed and he isn't that big, and Beanie Wells is both." http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/in ... beani.html

So I'm not alone in ranking Wells ahead of Moreno on sheer talent, not just the situation he drops into for 2009. And I still would prefer to have an RB in Arizona than one in Denver.

and here's a story on Slaton shutting it down while at W. Virginia in 2007;
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6425 ... ry-dispute

This stuff happens in college. Guys who might have the hearts of lions can get scared when you start talking about millions of dollars. If they bust a knee, oh well -- career over. Meanwhile the University is raking in tens of millions on them.

Just another angle to consider for those who want to come down on Beanie. He missed a total of 3 games at Ohio State in 3 seasons. He's not injury-prone.

My final word on this subject.

[cha]

He has the highest upside of any back in the draft -- he is arguably as talented a prospect as there has been since AP. And in an offense like AZ, he should have a considerable amount of red zone opportunities. And no, Hightower will not be the designated goal line back over Wells.


I will say this... I think there have been better years to have the 1.1 rookie pick. There are a lot of question marks with EVERY top rookie. Why wouldn't you go with the guy that gives you the greatest upside?

Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Chris Johnson are all better prospects, and even Moreno is from this draft so that's a stretch...Beanie could end up better, but as far as a prospect he's down the totem pole...Had he come out in 2008 he probably doesn't even make the 1st round.


I agree with you though on the point of if you have the 1.01 why not take the high upside guy...I've always said Beanie has tremendous upside but that doesn't always get you where you wanna go in dynasties.


McFadden had tremendous upside too, but do you think those McFadden owners would gladly trade him straight up for Kevin Smith and Kevin Forte? So you really shouldn't put too much stock into potential, it obviously means alot but when there are alot of concerns to go with it you want to balance that out.

-Count me in the group that thinks Wells is a better prospect than Moreno. I wouldn't say he is the best prospect at RB since AD but I think he is going to prove a lot of you wrong.

-I am a McFadden owner and I would not trade him for Kevin Smith.....Forte maybe but not Kevin Smith.

[haloswin2002]

wow, you are only saying maybe to McFadden for Forte? At best, McFadden becomes a top 5 fantasy football prospect. In most drafts this year Forte will be top 5. How high do you actually think the ceiling is for McFadden? Unless you are thinking LT 25-30 TD numbers, there is no way you can pass on potential vs. production.

[captainmorganjosh]

I listen to NFL Network everytime I get into my truck, and one talk show host said that McDaniels was quoted saying that he thinks Moreno can be a three down back in the NFL. They were talking about the RBBC thing in NE, and they believe that McDaniels just never had the talent there for a three down back. Just a thought.

[mattb47]

Agreed...there was a heck of a lot of mediocrity at RB in New England for a while now...

[SheaColandri]

I can see the straight 1.01 for Colston trade working for you. Also, your WR stable is really not that weak - this trade would make it formidable.