Timbathia wrote:LS2throwed wrote:I'm not going to argue with you about it, because I'm coming from an unbiased POV and you obviously see everything that Denver does and see it as an amazing move in the right direction for the club who can't do any wrong, that's the way things work as a fan sometime...A year ago you would of probably been jumping at the chance to defend Cutler, and now he's just a "whiny immature QB with a losing record", funny how perceptions change so fast with fans.
And as far as Quinn, this was also in that same scouting report:Profiles as a prototypical #2 tight end and a blocking specialist at the next level but should really excel in that role.
Does that sound like a 2nd rounder to you? What you fail to realize is that he would of been there at your 3rd rounder anyway, yet you traded away a valuable commodity in another 3rd round pick to grab him...Sorry if I see taking a RB at #12 and a blocking #2 two TE selected in the 2nd round that cost two 3rd rounders as a terrible start, but I'm not surprised that your in love with the pick.
I don't give them an F for the draft, I also don't think every move was terrible, but there have been numerous questionable moves up to this point and all of them cannot be defended...And the guy who is in control of whether or not he keeps his job is already sounding skeptical, vs 100% confident in the direction of the team...He may not be a personnel guy, but he's in control of how long McDaniels has a job, if they end up picking top 10 next year that leash is going to be incredibly short.
Unless you win 7-9 games trading your 1st rounder is going to look even worse...I can only imagine if it ends up being a top 5 and Alphonso Smith turns out to be average, and the Bears pick is in the low 20's.
What kind of a comment is that? That I fail to realise Quinn would definitely have been there in the third round. You keep making absurd statements as if they were true. You said he was definitely going to be undrafted a few posts ago, and now after pointing out he had a 2nd or 3rd round grade, you are saying that he would definitely be there in the middle of the third. Maybe he would, but maybe he wouldnt, but to say you know he would be available is just plain dumb - I am sick of pointing out the inaccuracies in all you comments/arguments in every post. You are a complete waste of time to argue with, because there is no substance behind anything you say. You say I am a homer for pointing out a logical reason behind each of McDaniels moves (whether I believe they were right or not is besides the point), but you are unbiased for talking cr@p about the Broncos with continual arguments based on your perceptions (that have never had the full facts behind them).
It is obvious that you are a FFL fan only and have little knowledge about debating or the NFL, so I will stop wasting my time and leave this thread be.
I usually don't get into debates with fans about their own team when they don't know how to be subjective.
It's all opinions, I have mine and you have your own, but obviously if I felt that Quinn would of been a late round pick then he would HAVE to be there with the 3rd, that's just common sense...Personally I don't think a team with glaring holes through their entire defense needed to spend two 3rd round picks on a #2 TE for blocking purposes.
If you think that's a huge win and victory for your team by all means celebrate away...It's obvious hearing anything negative about your precious Broncos upsets you.