wet_fantasy wrote: mattb47 wrote:
wet_fantasy wrote:shaun hill as a sleeper??
highly doubt that one.
Why not? Last season he was tied for the #8 QB in fantasy points per game with Matt Schaub. He averaged more fantasy points than McNabb did and it's not like he just played a couple games, he played in 9 games last season so it's a decent amount to look at. He's got no worse targets than he did last season and plays in a weak division...why can't he be a decent sleeper?
i just don't see him shaping into a legit QB1....in those 9 games, he threw for 300+ yards only once and never threw more than 2 td's in a game....and on AVG, he's good for throwing an INT every game..unless your team is stacked, you may be able to get away with having Hill as your QB....otherwise, i'd pass on him.
No one is talking about taking him as a QB1...that's not what a "sleeper" is...it's a guy you take later in the draft that could end up being better than where he was drafted. Hill fits that to a "T" as he's going VERY late if at all in drafts and he's proven he can put up decent numbers...you don't have to throw a bunch of 300+ yard games to be a decent fantasy QB (there really aren't as many 300+ yard games even with the elite QBs as some people think). For example, Peyton Manning only had 4 games of 300+ last season and just 3 the year before.
Hill may not put up earth shattering numbers but if you look at what he did last season in his 9 games, he was on pace for the following numbers:
321-512 (63%) for 3637 yards, 23 TDs and 14 INTs with 200 rushing yards and 3 rushing TDs. So that's 26 total TDs to just 14 INTs and those numbers would have put him squarely in the top 10 for fantasy QBs at 297.5 FP (#7 fantasy QB last year).
To me, that's his upside which means that if you can take a QB very late in your drafts that could potentially end up top 10, then that's the definition of a sleeper. I don't know that he will end up that good or that I even expect him to, but the potential is there.