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Postby Mathew11. » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:04 pm

12 team
PPR
KEEPER league ( 1 year)

MY TEAM:
QB: Rivers
WR: Wayne, Jennings
RB: Turner, K.Smith
TE: Gonzalez
W/T/R: Willie Parker
BN: Royal, Clayton, Hill(QB SF) Fargas and Morris
K: Akers
DEF: Minnesota

HIS TEAM:
QB: Romo
WR: Bryant, Evans
RB: Forte, Jacobs
TE: Daniels
W/T/R: P.Thomas
BN: Mcgahee, Walter, Z.Miller, S.Morris and Delhomme
K: Gostkowski
DEF: NYG

I GIVE: Turner, Gonzalez, Royal, Parker and Morris
I GET: Forte, O.Daniels, Pierre Thomas, Mcgahee and Walter

Do i take it or not???
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby tantrix1969 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:10 pm

Mathew11. wrote:12 team
PPR
KEEPER league ( 1 year)

MY TEAM:
QB: Rivers
WR: Wayne, Jennings
RB: Turner, K.Smith
TE: Gonzalez
W/T/R: Willie Parker
BN: Royal, Clayton, Hill(QB SF) Fargas and Morris
K: Akers
DEF: Minnesota

HIS TEAM:
QB: Romo
WR: Bryant, Evans
RB: Forte, Jacobs
TE: Daniels
W/T/R: P.Thomas
BN: Mcgahee, Walter, Z.Miller, S.Morris and Delhomme
K: Gostkowski
DEF: NYG

I GIVE: Turner, Gonzalez, Royal, Parker and Morris
I GET: Forte, O.Daniels, Pierre Thomas, Mcgahee and Walter

Do i take it or not???

Well this looks way better than the Wayne deal.You get Forte which is who you wanted to start with and we'll consider him and Turner a push,Daniels is just a hair under Gonzo imo.Pierre is a good uprade over FWP,enough to make the Royal/Walter difference not sting so much and I think McGahee is a bit better than Morris.If it was me and I wanted Forte I'd do this one.

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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby mattUTD20 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:20 pm

I would counter Turner/Royal/FWP for Forte/Walter/PThomas I don't think you need to swap TEs to get him to accept.
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby JabbaBen » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:43 pm

I assume this is a dynasty league, where you keep your whole team.

Given this assumption, I'd make the deal.

Forte is better than Turner in a PPR league.
I consider Thomas a slight upgrade over parker.
Daniels is a downgrade over Gonzalez, but it shoudl not be huge.
I consider the rest of the players in this trade an after thought, but just one note: Royal's production is probably going to decrease with Cutler leaving. Especially if Marshall also leaves.
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby THEOT » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:34 pm

I think you win with the RB's seeing as McGahee is an upgrade over Morris. You might lose a little with giving up Gonzo but Daniels is still a top 10 TE. I think Royal has a little more upside than Walter but Walter is still a solid WR2-3. Turner and Forte might be a wash, Forte might win out just because he'll probably get more carries than Turner due to the Falcons having a better passing game with way more receiving options than the Bears.
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby Mathew11. » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:57 pm

THEOT wrote:I think you win with the RB's seeing as McGahee is an upgrade over Morris. You might lose a little with giving up Gonzo but Daniels is still a top 10 TE. I think Royal has a little more upside than Walter but Walter is still a solid WR2-3. Turner and Forte might be a wash, Forte might win out just because he'll probably get more carries than Turner due to the Falcons having a better passing game with way more receiving options than the Bears.


Is that a yes or a no to the trade???
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby Mathew11. » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:58 pm

JabbaBen wrote:I assume this is a dynasty league, where you keep your whole team.

Given this assumption, I'd make the deal.

Forte is better than Turner in a PPR league.
I consider Thomas a slight upgrade over parker.
Daniels is a downgrade over Gonzalez, but it shoudl not be huge.
I consider the rest of the players in this trade an after thought, but just one note: Royal's production is probably going to decrease with Cutler leaving. Especially if Marshall also leaves.


No its a KEEPER and we keep 5 players
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby JabbaBen » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:03 pm

THEOT wrote:I think you win with the RB's seeing as McGahee is an upgrade over Morris. You might lose a little with giving up Gonzo but Daniels is still a top 10 TE. I think Royal has a little more upside than Walter but Walter is still a solid WR2-3. Turner and Forte might be a wash, Forte might win out just because he'll probably get more carries than Turner due to the Falcons having a better passing game with way more receiving options than the Bears.

IMO McGahee is worthless. Forte will catch the ball much more than Turner, which makes him a better PPR player. Norwood is always there as a third down, home run possibility in Atl.

You must have re-drafted already this year, because otherwise, Daniels, Walter. etc are pointless in this trade. This information would have been good to post initially.
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby THEOT » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:45 pm

JabbaBen wrote:
THEOT wrote:I think you win with the RB's seeing as McGahee is an upgrade over Morris. You might lose a little with giving up Gonzo but Daniels is still a top 10 TE. I think Royal has a little more upside than Walter but Walter is still a solid WR2-3. Turner and Forte might be a wash, Forte might win out just because he'll probably get more carries than Turner due to the Falcons having a better passing game with way more receiving options than the Bears.

IMO McGahee is worthless. Forte will catch the ball much more than Turner, which makes him a better PPR player. Norwood is always there as a third down, home run possibility in Atl.

You must have re-drafted already this year, because otherwise, Daniels, Walter. etc are pointless in this trade. This information would have been good to post initially.


When you compare McGahee to Morris he's got more value and he'll get carries this year with McClain taking on more of a FB goal line role. My bet is he's the starter still.

Mathew11. wrote:
THEOT wrote:I think you win with the RB's seeing as McGahee is an upgrade over Morris. You might lose a little with giving up Gonzo but Daniels is still a top 10 TE. I think Royal has a little more upside than Walter but Walter is still a solid WR2-3. Turner and Forte might be a wash, Forte might win out just because he'll probably get more carries than Turner due to the Falcons having a better passing game with way more receiving options than the Bears.


Is that a yes or a no to the trade???


Sorry, rethinking it again, I think losing downgrading from Gonzo & Royal to Daniels and Walter isn't worth the little upside if any that Forte has over Turner, I think you're better off staying pat. Now if you can keep Gonzo and Royal out of the deal then I'd do it.
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Re: HUGE MONSTER Forte for Turner DEAL!!!

Postby Minnesota Guy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:16 pm

I like the trade for you. I would see if you can get away with not giving up Gonzalez but yeah pull the trigger. I think that Turner is a little overvalued by most people. You can disagree with me but I see Turner just as a glorified Rudi Johnson from a few years past. He will get around 12TDs this year with roughly 1400 rushing but NO receiving yards. Forte is the complete package IMO. He can pound between the tackles, he has soft hands to catch out of the backfield and gets goaline carries. Plus if you are getting Pierre Thomas in the deal you would be getting possibly two top 10 backs when the season is done.
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