Let's Talk 7-12 round WR

[biju]

Well if you ended up with Lance Moore, would you play Ward over him?

Personally, I would. Lance Moore isn't going to be the answer for even a WR3 unless/until the Saints get hit with injuries to their top players.

In the four games Moore had where both Colston and Bush were on the field he had 13 catches for 89 yards and no TDs. WR3 material with upside? Not until one or both of those guys goes down and I'm not about to waste a pick hoping for injury.

[petedog9]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

[Dan Lambskin]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

right...the Ted Ginns and Devin Hesters are for bye weeks IMO

[Kensat30]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

right...the Ted Ginns and Devin Hesters are for bye weeks IMO

If you have a WR3 that starts for you every week, you either had an incredible draft or you don't have good in-season roster management. Fact: Some guy you draft as a WR3 is either going to become a surprise WR1 or WR2 or he will sit on your bench all year long and watch your WR4, WR5, or some waiver wire guy rotate in as your WR3 in any given week.

Derrick Mason and Donald Driver are the model of consistency. Do I want them as my WR3? Hell no. I don't even want those guys as my WR5. I don't want a MAson or a Driver cracking my lineup because I'm not satisfied with a consistent 6 points. From week to week "consistent" guys are putting you behind in the box score versus the other owners that grabbed the Mark Bradley and Justin Gages of the world offf the waiver wire when they are hot. No, I do not draft a WR3 for bye weeks or for injuries, I draft my WR3, WR4, WR5, WR6, etc. etc. to get that surprise WR2 and a guy that I think has the strongest shot of cracking my lineup. "Depth" is for suckers. I don't grab depth, I grab the guy that has a realistic shot of cracking the lineup. Depth is saved for the very last round of the draft and only in a sure handcuff situation. "Depth" is Ladell Betts.

Devin Hester and Ted Ginn aren't bye week players, those guys are potentially the next Javon Walker or Steve Smith. If you want a bye week filler, grab Greg Camarillo in the very last round of your draft. That guy will get you your 6 no problem and he costs as much as a backup kicker.

[Azrael]

Derrick Mason and Donald Driver are the model of consistency. But from week to week they are putting you behind in the box score versus the guy that grabbed Mark Bradley and Justin Gage off the waiver wire when they are hot.

I call these give up picks. Honestly, I only have a select few targets of WRs. After say WR20. It's so hard to distinguish between guys. There's question about alot of guys and arguments to be made for alot of guys. I just pick like 3 or 4 and hit those.

DeSean Jackson - did he only do so well beause Curtis was out most of last year
Santonio Holmes - was last year a fluke or do the Steelers really not throw enough to make him worth a No. 2
Antonio Bryant - can he repeat with Leftwich or McCown
Evans - does Owens hurt or help him
Eddie Royal - how does Orton affect him
Berrian - likely not worth it now with no Favre coming in
Santana Moss - which guy will show up, first half or 2nd half?
Lance Moore - is he a legit WR#2 or did significant injuries help him
Avery - is he up because he's it or down because he's it?
Ward - will Holmes over take him as go to guy?
Crabtree - not a good situation and not in camp
Coles - can he really step in for Housh, how much will Chris Henry's rededication hurt him?
Kevin Walter - was last year a career year for him?
Devin Hester - in the middle of the 9th round a No. 1 WR with a rockstar QB is well worth a pick
Torry Holt - seemed old and worn down, on a team that usually isn't kind to WRs
Cotchery - really disappointed even with Favre last year, can't see the upside with a rookie starting
Driver - old fading semi-star, other talented young guys in the mix
Breaston - never a good idea to draft a 3rd WR after a career year, and he didn't even score that many TDs.
Mason - not bad in ppr, not much upside
Harvin - rookie that will show some explosive plays, team is really run oriented
Ginn - Pennington has hard time getting ball down the field, and it's what Ginn does best
Chambers - former good WR2, may be worth a pick now that he's healthy.
Hixon - Giants have 3 WRs or so who could be the go to guy, how am I able to pick the right one?
Chris Henry - mega talented, seems to have head on straight, has scored alot in the past, application of talent could pay big dividends

There are a couple more guys I'll give a chance to again like Josh Morgan because he has impressed in 2 consecutive camps now but other than that it really becomes an eye of the beholder type of thing. I may try to get 3 of the top 20 WRs on my team.

[FearTheTurtle]

Hines Ward seems to be pretty polarizing...i just dont get how people can dismiss this guy, especially in PPR. he's likely to end up somewhere between the 15th-25th WR, and give you some pretty consistent week to week totals. i'll take that all day from a #3 WR

If I owned an NFL team I would love Hines Ward on my team. Good guy, great WR. But I don't...

There is way more value to be had elsewhere.

[FearTheTurtle]

In the four games Moore had where both Colston and Bush were on the field he had 13 catches for 89 yards and no TDs. WR3 material with upside? Not until one or both of those guys goes down and I'm not about to waste a pick hoping for injury.

Becuse Colston and Bush are the poster children for being healthy all year long.........

[Purple1]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

right...the Ted Ginns and Devin Hesters are for bye weeks IMO

If you have a WR3 that starts for you every week, you either had an incredible draft or you don't have good in-season roster management. Fact: Some guy you draft as a WR3 is either going to become a surprise WR1 or WR2 or he will sit on your bench all year long and watch your WR4, WR5, or some waiver wire guy rotate in as your WR3 in any given week.

Derrick Mason and Donald Driver are the model of consistency. Do I want them as my WR3? Hell no. I don't even want those guys as my WR5. I don't want a MAson or a Driver cracking my lineup because I'm not satisfied with a consistent 6 points. From week to week "consistent" guys are putting you behind in the box score versus the other owners that grabbed the Mark Bradley and Justin Gages of the world offf the waiver wire when they are hot. No, I do not draft a WR3 for bye weeks or for injuries, I draft my WR3, WR4, WR5, WR6, etc. etc. to get that surprise WR2 and a guy that I think has the strongest shot of cracking my lineup. "Depth" is for suckers. I don't grab depth, I grab the guy that has a realistic shot of cracking the lineup. Depth is saved for the very last round of the draft and only in a sure handcuff situation. "Depth" is Ladell Betts.

Devin Hester and Ted Ginn aren't bye week players, those guys are potentially the next Javon Walker or Steve Smith. If you want a bye week filler, grab Greg Camarillo in the very last round of your draft. That guy will get you your 6 no problem and he costs as much as a backup kicker.

Man you are right on the money

I have manged to draft a bust stud WR in the second round for the past four years in a row Moss(1st injury of his career), Fitz(injured most of the season), M Harrison(injured the entier season) and last year Colston(injured most of the season).

Years one and two I finnished last or next to last beacuse I didn't have the talent in my WR3,4,5 to cover that loss.

Year three late round picks of Jennings and Welker took me to the playoffs and last year Lance Moore, Desaun Jackson(till Steve Smith picked it up) helped me get my first division title.

This is some of the best advice out there for drafting your "back-up" wr's, right on Kensat!!!!

[loothor]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

right...the Ted Ginns and Devin Hesters are for bye weeks IMO

If you have a WR3 that starts for you every week, you either had an incredible draft or you don't have good in-season roster management. Fact: Some guy you draft as a WR3 is either going to become a surprise WR1 or WR2 or he will sit on your bench all year long and watch your WR4, WR5, or some waiver wire guy rotate in as your WR3 in any given week.

I completely agree with this sentiment. I look to pick up 2 or 3 WRs in the mid-to-late-rounds that are high-potential fliers for putting up WR1-2 type numbers... In my league, if you want to win, you've got to have a team that's finishing huge. It's easy to get to the playoffs on the backs of a few proven guys and some mediocrity, but to win the championship you generally need to field a team that's got at least two WR1-quality receivers and two WR1-quality RBs. If you're counting on your steady 5 or 6 points from Derrick Mason to make the difference in a win, you're going to end up losing one of your playoff games with a slightly better than average score.

Keep in mind that I play in a non-PPR shallow league, so possession receivers with low consistent point totals are usually widely available on the WW.

My favorites on this list are (listed in more or less the order I like them):

8.04 Devin Hester - You gotta like the switch to Cutler, I hold his gunslinging personally responsible for the success of Brandon Marshall (who I think may be a large bust this year) and Eddie Royal. We know Hester's got the legs, if he's ever going to get the hands to prove a #1 WR, this is the time.
12.05 Josh Morgan - I like him a lot more with Shaun Hill than Alex Smith, so my call here will have a lot to do with who wins that battle. I think he's the real deal and will be SF's #1 WR this year. How much that proves worth has everything to do with the QB.
7.01 Lance Moore - I don't think last year was a fluke, I think Reggie Bush will once again prove overvalued due to his paper-like body and there is plenty of room in the NO offense for a very productive #2 receiver.
7.05 Donnie Avery - The switch to west-coast worries me a bit, but he's just so damn fast.
9.08 Percy Harvin - Like him with big-armed fearless Sage Rosenfels, have mixed feelings with the ridiculously terrible Tavaris Jackson, but I doubt Tavaris will be a factor by the end of the year. I think he's going to put up some big games and some total duds, but if those big games come at the end of the year, he could be a huge difference-maker in a playoff run.

As much as I like Moore, Avery, and Harvin I'd be looking for them all to go a little later than the picks listed here.

I do not like:

8.01 Michael Crabtree - See Josh Morgan above. Between the foot, the holdout, and the competition from the more savvy Josh Morgan I think Crabtree is going to be #2 at best in a run-heavy offense. I think his NFL-readiness may be over-hyped.
9.04 Derrick Mason - An old possession receiver on a non-explosive offense is not what I'm looking for at all. Yeah, he'll get you 6, but he'll never ever get you 20.
12.03 Deion Branch - Between his injury-prone nature and Hasselbeck's weak back, I hate this pick. His window for NFL greatness has come and gone.
12.09 Darrius Heyward-Bey - Say hello to another spectacular Al Davis bust. I'd much rather have Chaz Schilens if I'm risking a WR from this horrible offense led by an untalented, fat, lazy QB. Speaking of which, Chaz Schilens should have made this list.

[FantasyFutballGuru13]

agreed.. Ward still gets the nod.. Consistency from my #3wr is what I want. thats what wins game. Not a wr who puts up big points one week and then gives me 1 catch for 8 yards 0 TD for the following 8 weeks...

right...the Ted Ginns and Devin Hesters are for bye weeks IMO

If you have a WR3 that starts for you every week, you either had an incredible draft or you don't have good in-season roster management. Fact: Some guy you draft as a WR3 is either going to become a surprise WR1 or WR2 or he will sit on your bench all year long and watch your WR4, WR5, or some waiver wire guy rotate in as your WR3 in any given week.

Derrick Mason and Donald Driver are the model of consistency. Do I want them as my WR3? Hell no. I don't even want those guys as my WR5. I don't want a MAson or a Driver cracking my lineup because I'm not satisfied with a consistent 6 points. From week to week "consistent" guys are putting you behind in the box score versus the other owners that grabbed the Mark Bradley and Justin Gages of the world offf the waiver wire when they are hot. No, I do not draft a WR3 for bye weeks or for injuries, I draft my WR3, WR4, WR5, WR6, etc. etc. to get that surprise WR2 and a guy that I think has the strongest shot of cracking my lineup. "Depth" is for suckers. I don't grab depth, I grab the guy that has a realistic shot of cracking the lineup. Depth is saved for the very last round of the draft and only in a sure handcuff situation. "Depth" is Ladell Betts.

Devin Hester and Ted Ginn aren't bye week players, those guys are potentially the next Javon Walker or Steve Smith. If you want a bye week filler, grab Greg Camarillo in the very last round of your draft. That guy will get you your 6 no problem and he costs as much as a backup kicker.

Good post sir.