Hawks4Life wrote:Well, I would say that williams is going to far out perform brown this year. I would say pick williams and take the best available from there. Even if you are going in to week one starting AP, Williams, Colston and say the worst available out of those(Hopefully not Roy Williams), youre still looking pretty good in my eyes. I dont see how getting the top choice out of those receivers has more value than DeAngelo Williams....you gotta remember he was the number one fantasy back, and I think even player last year.
i don't have any idea how you can think this... they are basically in the same situation with Ronnie getting the better of it, Ricky is old and won't see AS many carries as last year where as Stewart is only coming into his 2nd year and can only go up from where he is, add to it the fact that the Panthers actually have a decent passing game stealing more value from DWill, Ronnie is the spotlight in that offense and im looking for a big year out of him top 10 RB at least... so moving on from that, seens how its a snake draft and it is a PPR league i would have to say get White, i don't think he has as big of a year as last year simply because of TGon coming in, but he has been consistent the past 2 years with 83 and 88 catches... your RB situation IMO is very nice with AP and Ronnie, where as i think you have more of an issue covering WR i think Colsten is a good WR, but i think adding a Wideout like Roddy would be a huge addition i also think Roddy out scores DWill this year then on the swing back if there is a viable RB snatch him, if not get the best WR available and a RB in the 3rd round...
actually im trying to help people out with their issues to the best of my ability and would like to get on the Response team like i am on the baseball side, so i would not slide my bias towards Phin players in replies just because i like the Phins, also if you check out more of the Cafe alot of people also like Ronnie for a big year a top 10 year actually quoted by many... 2nd fact to back my reply is i just moved out to Seattle 2 months ago, but before then i lived in Charlotte for 3 years so i have seen Williams since he was drafted and his biggest down fall is hes not a good blocking back and thus has lost time to not only stewart, aside from the fact that he goes from just over 1200 yards total and 5 TDs combined in his first 2 years to 1500+ and 18 TDs alone last year... if you remember Delhomme has been a little fragile the past couple of years with his throwing arm, so they haven't 'opened him up' to his full potential of 2 years ago because they know that Moore can NOT step in and do the job Jake can, so now that hes had 1 full healthy season i think they open the passing game back up a bit more this year... Jake will also have Smith and Muhammad to start the season rather then one or the other and a big frame in the slot in Jarrett... DWill IMO will NOT see the numbers that he did last year...
djtw wrote:What RB's are available other than Williams that you might be able to pick up in the second round?
It doesn't matter. He can start 3 RB's every week.
Does anyone actually think he shouldn't start AP, DWill, and Ronnie every week?
If they do, they're wrong.
ok and also, rather then just saying 'take DWill' and 'if anyone thinks you shouldn't take DWill they are wrong', instead give some actual USEFULL insight and don't just try to slam everyone else and call them homers and that they are wrong when they are actually giving facts and stats to back up their points as to do they think they should do... and to think your on the response team haha wow...
bazzy_51 wrote: i don't have any idea how you can think this... they are basically in the same situation with Ronnie getting the better of it, Ricky is old and won't see AS many carries as last year where as Stewart is only coming into his 2nd year and can only go up from where he is, add to it the fact that the Panthers actually have a decent passing game stealing more value from DWill, Ronnie is the spotlight in that offense and im looking for a big year out of him top 10 RB at least... so moving on from that, seens how its a snake draft and it is a PPR league i would have to say get White, i don't think he has as big of a year as last year simply because of TGon coming in, but he has been consistent the past 2 years with 83 and 88 catches... your RB situation IMO is very nice with AP and Ronnie, where as i think you have more of an issue covering WR i think Colsten is a good WR, but i think adding a Wideout like Roddy would be a huge addition i also think Roddy out scores DWill this year then on the swing back if there is a viable RB snatch him, if not get the best WR available and a RB in the 3rd round...
actually im trying to help people out with their issues to the best of my ability and would like to get on the Response team like i am on the baseball side, so i would not slide my bias towards Phin players in replies just because i like the Phins, also if you check out more of the Cafe alot of people also like Ronnie for a big year a top 10 year actually quoted by many... 2nd fact to back my reply is i just moved out to Seattle 2 months ago, but before then i lived in Charlotte for 3 years so i have seen Williams since he was drafted and his biggest down fall is hes not a good blocking back and thus has lost time to not only stewart, aside from the fact that he goes from just over 1200 yards total and 5 TDs combined in his first 2 years to 1500+ and 18 TDs alone last year... if you remember Delhomme has been a little fragile the past couple of years with his throwing arm, so they haven't 'opened him up' to his full potential of 2 years ago because they know that Moore can NOT step in and do the job Jake can, so now that hes had 1 full healthy season i think they open the passing game back up a bit more this year... Jake will also have Smith and Muhammad to start the season rather then one or the other and a big frame in the slot in Jarrett... DWill IMO will NOT see the numbers that he did last year...
I'm not going to read another novel you authored, but if you're still trying to say that Ronnie is a better fantasy option than DWill, I still consider you a "homer".
djtw wrote:What RB's are available other than Williams that you might be able to pick up in the second round?
It doesn't matter. He can start 3 RB's every week.
Does anyone actually think he shouldn't start AP, DWill, and Ronnie every week?
If they do, they're wrong.
ok and also, rather then just saying 'take DWill' and 'if anyone thinks you shouldn't take DWill they are wrong', instead give some actual USEFULL insight and don't just try to slam everyone else and call them homers and that they are wrong when they are actually giving facts and stats to back up their points as to do they think they should do... and to think your on the response team haha wow...
This from the guy who thinks Ronnie and Roddy are better picks than DWill.
You want some numbers...
1636 yards, 20 TD's, 5.5 yards per carry, 95 yards per game...
spider321 wrote: It doesn't matter. He can start 3 RB's every week.
Does anyone actually think he shouldn't start AP, DWill, and Ronnie every week?
If they do, they're wrong.
ok and also, rather then just saying 'take DWill' and 'if anyone thinks you shouldn't take DWill they are wrong', instead give some actual USEFULL insight and don't just try to slam everyone else and call them homers and that they are wrong when they are actually giving facts and stats to back up their points as to do they think they should do... and to think your on the response team haha wow...
This from the guy who thinks Ronnie and Roddy are better picks than DWill.
You want some numbers...
1636 yards, 20 TD's, 5.5 yards per carry, 95 yards per game...
There. Happy?
those mean nothing, the topic poster could have gotten that from fricken Yahoo... add to the fact those numbers you posted 1515 is rushing and 33+% came in 3 of 16 games so 1000 rushing yards in 13 games, and prior to last year where was that at? also you really think that after what he did last year that the 5.5 yards per carry will last this year? i think thats a little far fetched, also the 20 TDs, how many years do you think he will out produce the passing game in TDs when Carolina's offense is based around Delhomme and Smith and has been for years thats not going to change, and again the passing game is back to 100% this year plus adding Jarrett as a check down reciever... there is NO way DWill rushes for more then 1100 yards this year with 10 TDs MAX... that 5.5 yards per carry is so inflated its crazy...
I could type a novel too if you like, but the fact of the matter is that DWill was the best RB in Caroina for 2 years before he got a chance to start last season.
Also, while JStew is talented, he is also fragile. Guys with a long history of foot and knee injuries before they even get to the NFL don't usually "hold up" very long in the league.
Teams will be prepared for the Dolphins' "Wildcat" gimmick this season and Ronnie will go back to being a disappointment.
bazzy_51 wrote: ok and also, rather then just saying 'take DWill' and 'if anyone thinks you shouldn't take DWill they are wrong', instead give some actual USEFULL insight and don't just try to slam everyone else and call them homers and that they are wrong when they are actually giving facts and stats to back up their points as to do they think they should do... and to think your on the response team haha wow...
This from the guy who thinks Ronnie and Roddy are better picks than DWill.
You want some numbers...
1636 yards, 20 TD's, 5.5 yards per carry, 95 yards per game...
There. Happy?
those mean nothing, the topic poster could have gotten that from fricken Yahoo... add to the fact those numbers you posted 1515 is rushing and 33+% came in 3 of 16 games so 1000 rushing yards in 13 games, and prior to last year where was that at? also you really think that after what he did last year that the 5.5 yards per carry will last this year? i think thats a little far fetched, also the 20 TDs, how many years do you think he will out produce the passing game in TDs when Carolina's offense is based around Delhomme and Smith and has been for years thats not going to change, and again the passing game is back to 100% this year plus adding Jarrett as a check down reciever... there is NO way DWill rushes for more then 1100 yards this year with 10 TDs MAX... that 5.5 yards per carry is so inflated its crazy...
Any idiot can demand facts or stats from another poster and then argue as to why those facts or stats are irrelevant.
I won't waste my time with you any longer. Obviously, your mind is made up and no amount of facts or stats to the contrary will change it.
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by bazzy_51 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:13 pm 
