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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby Motown Blues » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:53 am

I also give the same advice for Westy. I won't draft him unless he falls to the 3rd, which is unlikely in PPR.

Biggest difference I see between Westy and S-JAX is their back-ups. McCoy is a guy they want to use regularly in Philly, while there's no one behind Jackson.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby TheGhost » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:25 am

I play in a 12 team, TD heavy league (6points for all TD's rushing and passing). A couple bonus points are awarded for length of TD and going over benchmarks (300+ passing, 100+ rushing).

So in short, TD's are big in my league. I have the 12th and 13thpicks this year and have formulated my top 13 and will pick two of these guys and am hoping S-Jax is already gone so I don't have to debate taking him. Would you guys take him with my 12th or 13th picks?
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby mcmill3 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:59 pm

TruNinerFan wrote:Great job on this write up ;-D

I agree with you 100% on S JAX. I laugh every year when I see him go in the top 5.


You and me both!
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby joejlitz » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:59 pm

Wow. This post went over a lot better this year than it did last year, which is very weird because he is still going 5-7 in most of my mocks. But no one here at the Cafe is disagreeing. We all must be a bunch of geniuses. :^

EDIT: SJAX just went 8th in a mock I am currently in.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby latsprewell20002000 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:15 pm

I agree with just about everything in the article. Except the comparison to Westbrook. Now yeah am i a Westbrook fan boy? Yeah fine ill admit it. But still, its hard to compare the two i would say. The only negative thing about drafting Westbrook is that you need to constantly watch his health, although he normally makes it out onto the field, and you must draft his back up. Other than that hes a number one. Is he a top 5 pick? Certainly not. But hes well worth a second round pick early in the round and is a RB1 slash RB2 in my book. Go WESTY!!
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby scottaa1 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:20 pm

joejlitz wrote:Wow. This post went over a lot better this year than it did last year,


If it makes you feel any better, I hate it. ;-)

Kdding of course. I thought your threads last year were a bit pessimistic but followed them throughout the season and agree with your reasonings. I'd like to see what Jax could do playing for a different team but that's not the reality of his situation. I'm sure when he does have breakout games it'll be when I'm playing against him. !+)

Looking forward to seeing who you pick for next year's thread ;-D
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby Cowboys 4 life » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:09 pm

Nice Article Joe. In reading the Fantasy Football Index this year I realized how over prasied this guy is. I have the 5th pick in my draft this Sat. I know I won't be taking him.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby gmoney973 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:25 pm

Jackson is strictly a risk/high reward player, while I don't think he is worth picks 5-7 ; once it gets to 8 i think he should go over players such as Slaton, Gore, Chris Johnson based on talent alone. I don't think there is any debate as to Jackson having talent. When he is healthly he plays well. Very well.

There is a point where u need to just forget about the injury history and take a chance at the huge reward you can get by Jackson turing in a healthly season. Sure there is a chance Jackson gets injured. But there is a chance any of the first round picks get injured. I think his talent outweighs his injury concern.

When AP was a rookie everyone shyed away from him for his college injury issues. When he was in his 2nd season many players took LT over him due to injuries in his first season. There are many examples where players had injuries a few seasons then played well after it.

Ok so Jackson missed 4 games the last 2 seasons. He did play (close)full seasons the other years. I think u need to give him one more season to determine if he is truely an injury hazard to completely avoid. He can pay huge dividends if he is healthly. I'd rather have that potential of huge dividends then the other question marks who also may get hurt playing RB in the nfl.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby joejlitz » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:32 pm

gmoney973 wrote:Jackson is strictly a risk/high reward player, while I don't think he is worth picks 5-7 ; once it gets to 8 i think he should go over players such as Slaton, Gore, Chris Johnson based on talent alone. I don't think there is any debate as to Jackson having talent. When he is healthly he plays well. Very well.

There is a point where u need to just forget about the injury history and take a chance at the huge reward you can get by Jackson turing in a healthly season. Sure there is a chance Jackson gets injured. But there is a chance any of the first round picks get injured. I think his talent outweighs his injury concern.

When AP was a rookie everyone shyed away from him for his college injury issues. When he was in his 2nd season many players took LT over him due to injuries in his first season. There are many examples where players had injuries a few seasons then played well after it.

Ok so Jackson missed 4 games the last 2 seasons. He did play (close)full seasons the other years. I think u need to give him one more season to determine if he is truely an injury hazard to completely avoid. He can pay huge dividends if he is healthly. I'd rather have that potential of huge dividends then the other question marks who also may get hurt playing RB in the nfl.

Injury was just one of 5 (one, two three, four, five) reasons that I listed as to why you shouldn't draft him. :-B
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby gmoney973 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:40 pm

joejlitz wrote:
gmoney973 wrote:Jackson is strictly a risk/high reward player, while I don't think he is worth picks 5-7 ; once it gets to 8 i think he should go over players such as Slaton, Gore, Chris Johnson based on talent alone. I don't think there is any debate as to Jackson having talent. When he is healthly he plays well. Very well.

There is a point where u need to just forget about the injury history and take a chance at the huge reward you can get by Jackson turing in a healthly season. Sure there is a chance Jackson gets injured. But there is a chance any of the first round picks get injured. I think his talent outweighs his injury concern.

When AP was a rookie everyone shyed away from him for his college injury issues. When he was in his 2nd season many players took LT over him due to injuries in his first season. There are many examples where players had injuries a few seasons then played well after it.

Ok so Jackson missed 4 games the last 2 seasons. He did play (close)full seasons the other years. I think u need to give him one more season to determine if he is truely an injury hazard to completely avoid. He can pay huge dividends if he is healthly. I'd rather have that potential of huge dividends then the other question marks who also may get hurt playing RB in the nfl.

Injury was just one of 5 (one, two three, four, five) reasons that I listed as to why you shouldn't draft him. :-B



I didnt think your other arguments were worth responding to - but if you insist....

1 and 2 are pretty much the same. Sure you can say the Rams suck in the preseason. Everyone said the Ravens sucked last season and their running game did very good. If you are not considering Jackson as a top pick then you are considering Chris Johnson, Slaton, and Gore better picks. I don't think you can say that the Titans or 49ers passing attack or overall team is that much better then the Rams. Personally I feel the Titans are vastly overrated. Slaton on the otherhand may be part of a good offense but if you want to consider injury so highly then you wouldn't want to bet on Andre/Schaub. The quality of the team only goes so far in the argument. If the player is talented he is talented. Last season I'd dont think the deadly thread of Tavaris Jackson effected AP's stats too much.

3 - I don't know how you can say the offensive line still sucks. They get one of the best centers in the league, draft one of the best tackles and the o-line still sucks? You are hard to please

5 - not really an argument
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