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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby joejlitz » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:16 pm

7 lousy yards from a great RB on a lousy team. Expect more of the same throughout the year.

Hope everyone heeded my advice (you too, G$)
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby gmoney973 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:37 pm

Its the first game of the year and Jackson looked good when he got touches...


Not much better then other first round picks:

Forte: 30 yards so far
Turner: 60 yards
CJ: 57
Slaton: 30 yards


You'll be eating your words when he tears up the skins next week
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby joejlitz » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:47 pm

gmoney973 wrote:Its the first game of the year and Jackson looked good when he got touches...


Not much better then other first round picks:

Forte: 30 yards so far
Turner: 60 yards
CJ: 57
Slaton: 30 yards


You'll be eating your words when he tears up the skins next week

He could be a stud for the next 3 weeks (though I don't think he will) and it won't matter. Because over the course of a year, there are too many factors against him becoming a stud this year on a week-to-week basis. That's the whole point of my thread. And I don't care what other RBs did. I only advised against taking SJAX.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby Knightrider29 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:56 pm

Despite my comments on page 1, I drafted him. I didn't like any other player at the position I drafted (7th).

Yeah, he did not have a great week one (mostly because of Bulger, who had several opportunities to throw it to him while he was WIDE open). Regardless, he still did just as mediocre as the rest of the other fantasy RB's people were so high on this summer (Slaton, Johnson, Forte, Turner).

He'll bounce back.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby latsprewell20002000 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:01 pm

Knightrider29 wrote:Despite my comments on page 1, I drafted him. I didn't like any other player at the position I drafted (7th).

Yeah, he did not have a great week one (mostly because of Bulger, who had several opportunities to throw it to him while he was WIDE open). Regardless, he still did just as mediocre as the rest of the other fantasy RB's people were so high on this summer (Slaton, Johnson, Forte, Turner).

He'll bounce back.


But thats the thing. The others you listed I think will bounce back. Especially Johnson and Turner. And Slaton too, I think Houston just had a terrible game all around. I dont think Jackson will bounce back at all. Hes the ONLY person on the Rams the other teams have to be worried about AT ALL.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby Knightrider29 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:18 pm

latsprewell20002000 wrote:
Knightrider29 wrote:Despite my comments on page 1, I drafted him. I didn't like any other player at the position I drafted (7th).

Yeah, he did not have a great week one (mostly because of Bulger, who had several opportunities to throw it to him while he was WIDE open). Regardless, he still did just as mediocre as the rest of the other fantasy RB's people were so high on this summer (Slaton, Johnson, Forte, Turner).

He'll bounce back.


But thats the thing. The others you listed I think will bounce back. Especially Johnson and Turner. And Slaton too, I think Houston just had a terrible game all around. I dont think Jackson will bounce back at all. Hes the ONLY person on the Rams the other teams have to be worried about AT ALL.


The difference being that all those other guys were/are/could be one hit wonders. Jackson has proved year in and year out that he's an elite talent. I know alot of people are pointing to the fact that they have no passing game this year, but my question is: they had one last year? Their leading receiver had a whopping 3 TD's, and it doesn't get much worse than that.

Turner 3.0 YPC
Forte 2.2 YPC
Slaton 1.9 YPC

Jackson 4.2 YPC
Johnson 3.8 YPC

I think Jackson, Johnson, and Forte (because of his catching abilities) are the only three of those players who will be big fantasy contributors out of those players. Turner is going to be burnt out from last year, an faces alot of tough run defenses this season. If today was any indication, he's going to be average (1,000-1,100 + 7 TD's) this fantasy season. Slaton to me had bust written all over him before the season began; a small back who came out of no where with an very high YPC last year.

I'll refer back this post later to see how right or wrong I am. As it stands, I think Steven Jackson will be the most productive fantasy player out of the 5 players listed.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby joejlitz » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:47 am

I'm not sure comparing YPC is productive.
1) FF doesn't give you points based on YPC
2) You could have a great YPC but only get the ball 10 times a game because youre team sucks so bad and you constantly have to throw to get back in the game (as is expected from the Rams).
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby Knightrider29 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:29 pm

joejlitz wrote:I'm not sure comparing YPC is productive.
1) FF doesn't give you points based on YPC
2) You could have a great YPC but only get the ball 10 times a game because youre team sucks so bad and you constantly have to throw to get back in the game (as is expected from the Rams).


It is because it shows he does something with the ball when it's given to him.

It's true that the Rams will be throwing alot, but Jackson is a pass catching every down back. He had zero catches last game (thanks to some horrible decision making by Bulger), but I remain confident in his fantasy ability.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby latsprewell20002000 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:54 pm

I really dont understand how you can remain confident in Jackson. So you said you think that he will be the most productive out of Slaton, Turner, Forte, Johnson, and Jackson correct? Well Johnson having a better fantasy year is a lock. It just is. The guy is a star in the making. Forte, once the Bears realize whats going on will be fine too. Houston just had a wack game and Turner will be fine too.

If i had to bet on it i would say Jackson beats out one of those four. Not sure which one.
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Re: Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

Postby SameSongNDance » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:04 pm

Jackson will finish ahead of Slaton, Forte and Turner. I don't own any here so no bias. I'll just reiterate what Ive said earlier.

Slaton: Hit or miss type of back. Either he breaks off a huge gain or has a mediocre game. Check out his stats from last year. Factor in that Chris Brown is getting touches, whether you like it or not. I watched the game, he WAS the better back.

Forte: I believe in the 370 curse, hard to match last years stats...he will have worse numbers. Will it be a major decline, nah.

Turner: I still believe in the 370 curse, tougher schedule..he will have worse numbers and it will be a major decline from the previous year. Turners ADP was just outrageous.
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