Why Steven Jackson Should Not Be Drafted - 2009

[Knightrider29]

I really dont understand how you can remain confident in Jackson. So you said you think that he will be the most productive out of Slaton, Turner, Forte, Johnson, and Jackson correct? Well Johnson having a better fantasy year is a lock. It just is. The guy is a star in the making. Forte, once the Bears realize whats going on will be fine too. Houston just had a wack game and Turner will be fine too.

If i had to bet on it i would say Jackson beats out one of those four. Not sure which one.

I didn't say Johnson would do worse; in fact he was drafted the pick before I took Jackson.

It all comes down to talent. In my opinion, Jackson is a top 3, if not top 1, running back on a team with a good O-line. He's certainly more skilled than any of the players listed above; he's so strong that he can practically drag players. And most importantly, he's an every down back. Aside from Forte, you can't say that about anyone else in that list.

I'll take him over a handful of players who have one good season under their belts. It doesn't matter how bad things are around him; Jackson always manages to stay productive.

[joejlitz]

In my opinion, Jackson is a top 3, if not top 1, running back on a team with a good O-line.

STL does not have a good offensive line (see page 1 of this thread)

And most importantly, he's an every down back. Aside from Forte, you can't say that about anyone else in that list.

Huh? Turner is an every down back. Slaton is an every down back, no matter what people are saying about Chris Brown. Brown had 3 carries last week. That hardly qualifies as a RBBC.

[Knightrider29]

In my opinion, Jackson is a top 3, if not top 1, running back on a team with a good O-line.

STL does not have a good offensive line (see page 1 of this thread)

I was saying he IF he had a good offensive line, not suggesting that he did have one.

Huh? Turner is an every down back. Slaton is an every down back, no matter what people are saying about Chris Brown. Brown had 3 carries last week. That hardly qualifies as a RBBC.

Turner is not. Norwood had 5 receptions the opener against Miami, and will probably have a combined 800+ yard season again.

Chris Brown only had three touches because Slaton couldn't rush them into the red zone, and Shaub couldn't throw them there. He'll get most of the goal line work in an attempt to keep Slaton healthy.

[gmoney973]

how can you say the rams dont have a good oline when they got one of the best centers in the league from free agency and drafted the best LT in the draft?

normally when a team drafts a LT so high it has a dramatic impact on the oline

[joejlitz]

how can you say the rams dont have a good oline when they got one of the best centers in the league from free agency and drafted the best LT in the draft?

normally when a team drafts a LT so high it has a dramatic impact on the oline

*SIGH*

Does anyone read the whole thread? This is from the first post in the thread.

3. The offensive line still sucks. Center, Jason Brown, is the offseason's biggest acquisition on the OLine, and is expected to contribute heavily. After that, the talent drops off substantially. Jason Smith is coming in at RT, but he is still a rookie. Word out of Rams camp is that his run blocking is coming along nicely, but he is struggling with his pass protection, and he still has to win the starting job from Adam Goldberg (but that is thought to be a foregone conclusion). Alex Barren is back at LT and is fairly consistent, but not all-pro. LG, Jacob Bell, was in for all of two plays in the first preseason game before he was taken out with a head injury. He was brought in as a savior for the OLine last year, but at the end of the year, the St. Louis Time Dispatch dubbed him a huge bust. RG, Richie Incognito, was inconsistent all last season and returns as a starter this year only because the Rams failed to address this positon.

[Knightrider29]

I haven't forgotten about this thread.

Forte's last two weeks rushing: 29 yards last week; 66 yards this week
Forte's last two weeks reviving: (5) 33 yards last week; (6) 40 yards this week

Jackson's last two weeks rushing: 104 yards last week; 117 yards this week
Jackson's last two weeks receiving: (4) 15 yards last week; (5) 46 yards this week

Slaton's last two weeks rushing: 34 yards last week; 76 yards this week
Slaton's last two weeks receiving: (3) 25 yards last week; (3) 37 yards this week

Turner's last two weeks rushing: 105 yards last week (1 TD); 56 yards this week (1 TD)
Turner's last two weeks receiving: (1) 5 yards last week; (0) 0 yards this week

Aside from Jackson, Turner is the only player that's been significantly fantasy relevant. And that's only because he has two touch downs (which won't be happening every week); his play has been average at best, averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

Jackson is hands down the best out of these players, despite having the worst surrounding him.

[latsprewell20002000]

I haven't forgotten about this thread.

Forte's last two weeks rushing: 29 yards last week; 66 yards this week
Forte's last two weeks reviving: (5) 33 yards last week; (6) 40 yards this week

Jackson's last two weeks rushing: 104 yards last week; 117 yards this week
Jackson's last two weeks receiving: (4) 15 yards last week; (5) 46 yards this week

Slaton's last two weeks rushing: 34 yards last week; 76 yards this week
Slaton's last two weeks receiving: (3) 25 yards last week; (3) 37 yards this week

Turner's last two weeks rushing: 105 yards last week (1 TD); 56 yards this week (1 TD)
Turner's last two weeks receiving: (1) 5 yards last week; (0) 0 yards this week

Aside from Jackson, Turner is the only player that's been significantly fantasy relevant. And that's only because he has two touch downs (which won't be happening every week); his play has been average at best, averaging 3.5 yards per carry.

Jackson is hands down the best out of these players, despite having the worst surrounding him.

I think you forgot someone. His name is Chris Johnson. He was in the talks here too

[Knightrider29]

I think you forgot someone. His name is Chris Johnson. He was in the talks here too

Here's my quote from a couple weeks ago, located at the top of this page:

I didn't say Johnson would do worse; in fact he was drafted the pick before I took Jackson.

You can also look back onto page 3, where I said this:

I think Jackson, Johnson, and Forte (because of his catching abilities) are the only three of those players who will be big fantasy contributors out of those players. Turner is going to be burnt out from last year, an faces alot of tough run defenses this season. If today was any indication, he's going to be average (1,000-1,100 + 7 TD's) this fantasy season. Slaton to me had bust written all over him before the season began; a small back who came out of no where with an very high YPC last year.

I'll refer back this post later to see how right or wrong I am. As it stands, I think Steven Jackson will be the most productive fantasy player out of the 5 players listed.

Aside from Forte struggling so far, and Jackson being the most "productive" (more like most consistent), I've been right on the money.

[joejlitz]

It's a marathon, boys and girls. SJAX put up great numbers this week. No doubt about it. It's a 16-game fantasy season, though. I'm tracking the top-RBs and WRs at the link below. It's fairly good for comparing all of the RBs as you guys are doing. Check it out:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=447344

[Knightrider29]

It's a marathon, boys and girls. SJAX put up great numbers this week. No doubt about it. It's a 16-game fantasy season, though. I'm tracking the top-RBs and WRs at the link below. It's fairly good for comparing all of the RBs as you guys are doing. Check it out:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=447344

Nice work!

Yep, there's still a long way to go, but I'll continue to bump this thread every 2-4 weeks with (hopefully positive) analysis about Jackson's play.