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Postby bazzy_51 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:29 pm

12 team h2h scoring is a little weird cuz there are a ton of bonuses, TDs all are 6 PT...
Bonus system:
QB-25 yards per point, 5PTs at 125 yards, 10 at 200 yards, 15 at 275 yards
RB-10 yards per point, 5PTs at 50 yards, 10 at 100 yards, 15 at 150 yards
WR-10 yards per point, 5PTs at 50 yards, 10 at 100 yards, 15 at 150 yards

start: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, K, DEF, D, DB, DL

My roster:
QB- Schaub, Campbell
WR- Jennings, Bryant, Donnie Avery, Chris Chambers, Hixon, Crabtree
RB- AP, Pierre Thomas, Fred Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Mendy, McGahee, Ray Rice
TE- Zach Miller
K- Jason Elam
DEF-Tennessee
D-Jerod Mayo
DB-EMPTY (will add closer to the start of the year)
DL-EMPTY (will add closer to the start of the year)

Current trade PENDING:
I Give: Antonio Bryant, Mendenhall, Willis McGahee, Domenik Hixon
I Get: Randy Moss, Dominic Rhodes, Paul Posluzsny
BTW i think i flat our knocked that one outta the park

NEED HELP HERE THO:
guy just proposed this to me and i know its a no, but i think we could get something worked out check it:
I Give: Adrian Peterson
I Get: MJD and Michael Vick

His Squad:
QB-McNabb, Vick, Favre
WR-Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Berrian, Hester, Harvin
RB-MJD, Julius Jones, Reggie Bush
TE-Winslow, Shockey

what would i come back over the top with? i was looking at trying to get AJ with MJD, should do somethin like AP/Crabtree/Ray Rice for MJD/AJ? think its enough or too much to give? think up a trade that i should try... i love AP, but if im getting MJD in return im more able to think about dealing him...

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Postby naberrulz7 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:44 pm

If he accepts your proposed trade that you have listed, I would take that. I don't think he will though... I don't see any other way to be able to snag AJ off of him without completely destroying your depth. AD and MJD should have stats similar to eachother this year. If you can get anyone that has an ADP of round 2 or 3, I think you are gaining value. I have AD gaining 20 more points than MJD this year. With your scoring system, maybe call it 40. Divide that by 15 games and that is less than 3 points a week.
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Postby Xtreme » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:45 pm

This really depends on how you rank AP vs MJD. Most people have AP #1, but I've seen some rankings with MJD #1. My personal opinion is that AP is awesome, and he'll be even better with Favre keeping defenses from stacking the box. To give up the best player in FF, you have to get some serious production in return. That means Vick is out. He's not even a starter! Sure he has all the sexy highlight reel moves, but nobody knows what his role is gonna be, and all the starting spots are taken.

If you could get MJD and AJ, that would be good for you, but I don't think he'll accept the trade you suggested. Try it, and if he declines, try AP/Crabtree for MJD/S.Smith. Steve Smith is hurt right now, so his value has dropped a bit. If you think he's gonna be fine (which I do), then this is a good trade for you. Also, I'm not high on Crabtree.

Thanks for the help on mine.
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Postby UNDEFEATED » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:54 am

Target getting MJD plus Steve Smith/AJ with giving up Jennings.

Give ADP and Lynch at best. You are way ahead of the curve when Ray Rice decides to take over the NFL.

I could see him taking this. And throw in a wr if you have to.
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Re: Now I need some trade help haha...Always Help 100%!!

Postby bazzy_51 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:52 pm

i sent him this, am i stretching this too far? giving up too much? i love the hell out of AP in fantasy leagues and love him having a somewhat legit QB now to help him out, but i like the setup of Andre/Moss/Jennings/MJD/PT over Moss/Jennings/Donnie Avery/AP/PT... am i wrong? again i countered his deal and sent him this back:

I Give: AP/Donnie Avery/Michael Crabtree
I Get: MJD/AJ/Favre

think its too much, or not enough or should i just stand pat?

also if i get this deal i would dump Jason Campbell for Burleson, Bradley, Curtis, Robiskie, Sidney Rice, Henderson, Chris Henry, Joey Galloway or Mike Walker...

again should i keep the deal on the table or pull it off? His best offer thus far was MJD/Steve Smith/Reggie Bush for AP/Jennings/Ray Rice, which in that deal i think i give up way too much but again what do yall think?
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Postby brian_allen_19 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:29 pm

You both are aiming real high. I havent seen a very even trade yet. To get AJ/MJD its gonna take AP and atleast Jennings
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Postby haloswin2002 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:49 pm

I dont see him giving up MJD/AJ for that last offer, but if he accepts I would jump on it. Honestly to me, AP/Jennings is pretty close to fair for MJD/AJ. Its all going to come down to the additional players thrown in on the offer. I agree with the others, I think you would be better with an AP/? for MJD/Smith.

Quick question, in your league you listed WR and RB bonus, but is it really a rushing/receiving bonus? If so, MJD might be as good or slightly better than AP since I see him getting the receiving bonus (in addition to the rushing bonus) a couple of weeks.
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Postby bazzy_51 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:01 pm

haloswin2002 wrote:I dont see him giving up MJD/AJ for that last offer, but if he accepts I would jump on it. Honestly to me, AP/Jennings is pretty close to fair for MJD/AJ. Its all going to come down to the additional players thrown in on the offer. I agree with the others, I think you would be better with an AP/? for MJD/Smith.

Quick question, in your league you listed WR and RB bonus, but is it really a rushing/receiving bonus? If so, MJD might be as good or slightly better than AP since I see him getting the receiving bonus (in addition to the rushing bonus) a couple of weeks.


yes there are bonuses for Passing, Rushing AND Receiving yards, the rushing and receiving are identical and very low at 5Pts for 50 yards, 10 for 100 yards and 15 for 150 yards, not to mention 1 point per every 10 rushing and receiving yards.
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Re: Now I need some trade help haha...Always Help 100%!!

Postby bazzy_51 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:37 pm

me and this guy are just going back an forth now.

he rejected my offer with MJD and AJ involved and sent me this back (which i think is absolute JUNK, hes trying to sell me names not value and im not going to buy into it):

I Give: AP/Moss
I Get: MJD/Bernard Berrian/Reggie Bush/Jeremy Shockey

first off Shockey is a has been trash who won't start over my TE now in Zach Miller
second, Reggie Bush is way too injury prone for my likes
and third everyone has BOOSTED Berrian's value WAY too high with addition of Favre, this guy is calling Berrian a 'stud' in his reply with the trade offer.

am i blind to something here or what?
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Postby lugmetric » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:51 pm

Absolutely pass on that. Favre's arm isn't the cannon it once was. Honestly, Berrian's stock was higher with Rosenfails. Shiancoe should see some better numbers cause Favre loves his TEs, but no way Berrian is a stud. He's a WR3/WR4 to me. Reggie Bush is already limping at practice. This guy will see 4 touches one game, then 16, then he's injured, forget about it. He's torture. Shockey should be better than last year, but come on, who needs two TEs?

When you give studs, you have to get studs. If you're giving up moss, Jennings/Smith/AJ have to be involved, IMO.
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