in a 14 team h2h keeper league (keep 10 year to year with keeper restrictions on positions) Scoring is different so here it is... Passing Attempts .1 Completions .2 Passing Yards 25 yards per point; 3 points at 250 yards Passing Touchdowns 6 Interceptions -1 Rushing Attempts .1 Rushing Yards 10 yards per point; 3 points at 200 yards Rushing Touchdowns 6 Receptions .1 Reception Yards 15 yards per point; 5 points at 200 yards Reception Touchdowns 6 Return Yards 20 yards per point Return Touchdowns 6 2-Point Conversions 2 Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
So this guy in my league is freaking out about his QB situation. Haha can't blame him he started Delhomme yesterday and have Shaun Hill as his backup, so he came to me with a couple trade proposals:
I Give: Aaron Rodgers I Get: any ONE of Westy, Lynch or Braylon Edwards or I Give: Aaron Rodgers I Get: Westy and one of either Benson, Ochocinco or Holmes or I Give: Aaron Rodgers and Roy Williams (DAL) I Get: Westy and either Marshaun Lynch or Braylon Edwards
Roster: QB-Rodgers WR-Andre Johnson WR-Marques Colston RB-Adrian Peterson RB-Darren McFadden TE-Jason Witten W/T-Reggie Wayne W/R-Roy Williams W/R-Mike Bell BN-Lance Moore, Willis McGahee, Matt Hasselbeck, Chester Taylor, Fred Taylor, Ricky Williams, Domenik Hixon (who im probably going to drop for somethin on the WW) K-Kris Brown D-DJ Williams, Quentin Mikell DB-Leodis McKelvin, Chris Carr DL-Alex Brown, Jay Ratliff
Way im looking at these deals are: I know Rodgers is a stud, but if i can get enough for him i would be comfortable doing it simply because A. i just traded Cutler/Portis/Fasano for Rodgers/Wayne/Witten before the season started which was a huge win and B. because Hasselbeck im expecting to be a top end fantasy QB with all the weapons in Seattle this year.
His Roster: QB-Delhomme, Hill WR-Edwards, Holmes, Ochocinco, Derrick Mason, Chansi Stuckey, Steve Smith RB-Westy, Gore, Benson, Lynch TE-Greg Olson K-Ryan Lindell D-Dansby, Urlacher, Tatupu DB-Cedric Griffin, Sean Jones, Asante Samual DL- Chike Okeafor, Will Smith
If not any of those deals, do you see something i could propose back or should i just stand pat?
i dont like moving rodgers at all. you're pretty solid across the board, and rodgers is a great fantasy qb. in a 14 team keeper league moving someone as young and good as he is is definitly not something id do.
im not per say eager to get rid of Rodgers, like i said this guy freaked out after yesterday and proposed ALL of these trades to ME, not the other way around. I mean a couple i don't think are too bad of deals, looking at the possibility of adding a top 5 RB in Westy and a complementary WR like Ocho or complementary RB like Benson with Westy doesn't look to bad.
i mean look at the difference:
QB-Rodgers WR-AJ, Colston, Wayne, Williams RB-AP, DMac, Mike Bell, McGahee or QB-Hasselbeck WR-AJ, Colston, Wayne, Williams, Ochocinco RB-AP, Westy, DMac, Bell, McGahee or QB-Hasselbeck WR-AJ, Colston, Wayne, Williams RB-AP, Westy, DMac, Benson, Bell, McGahee
right now... yeah you're going to improve your team a lot. hassleback is a decent QB to have starting who's only going to get better as his o-line adn WR core does. I just don't think with as sound a team you have you can justify dropping a guy of rodgers caliber. and think of where your team will be when/if hassleback gets injured? are you going to pick up shaun hill or jake delhomme?
Thanks for the help on mine, I may take that deal.
I think you're right that Hass will be a viable fantasy qb this year. May very well equal or better Rodgers because they are going to throw. In a way it sucks giving up Rodgers but I think it definitely solidifies your RBs and WRs.
I like Deal #2 the best and I'd go with Westy and Holmes. I think PIT is going to throw a lot still and they demonstrated they are very capable the other night. I think Holmes is going to be a monster this year.
In a keeper I definitely would not do this. You're trading away a very very good young QB who could be your starting QB for years to come to get a RB who's on his last productive season potentially. You'd also end up with a QB who's in the twilight of his career, who missed a larger portion of last season with back issues, and who plays behind a potentially suspect line. Currently your team is stacked to win now and in the future. I don't think the minimal improvement of Westbrook over McFadden this season is worth the hole you'll find yourself in 1 or 2 seasons from now if you let Rogers go.
yossarian wrote:In a keeper I definitely would not do this. You're trading away a very very good young QB who could be your starting QB for years to come to get a RB who's on his last productive season potentially. You'd also end up with a QB who's in the twilight of his career, who missed a larger portion of last season with back issues, and who plays behind a potentially suspect line. Currently your team is stacked to win now and in the future. I don't think the minimal improvement of Westbrook over McFadden this season is worth the hole you'll find yourself in 1 or 2 seasons from now if you let Rogers go.
He makes a good point. You could always trade him Hass for a little less.
On pure value, I'd like Rodgers for Westbrook and Holmes. You'd have to downgrade Westbrook a bit since it's a keeper, but you'd be getting a borderline WR1 in Holmes along with him. Worst case scenario you'd be trading a #1 QB for a serviceable back AND a WR2.
But all of that said, I'm with those who don't see how it makes sense for your particular situation. I like Hasslebeck too, but the Rams did help quite a bit to make him look good Week 1, and you already look very deep at RB/WR. Regardless whether Westy/Holmes go to your bench or push other guys out of your starting lineup -- you'd be trading away starting QB points for increased production on your bench.
So while I can see why you'd consider this and while I don't think it's an inherently bad deal or anything, I still think I'd pass or maybe counteroffer something with Hasslebeck if you think that'll fly.