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Postby scottaa1 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:35 am

I had the exact same camping tool when I was a kid and I loved to eat with it, too. I hope they come to their senses. Do they not use utensils in school cafeterias any more? Even a plastic spork could poke an eye out.

A Delaware first-grader who wanted to eat lunch at school with his favorite camping utensil, a combination of folding fork, knife and spoon, now faces 45 days in reform school.


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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Madison » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:05 pm

A Delaware first-grader suspended for bringing his favorite camping utensil to school will likely get a reprieve, a school board member said Tuesday.


From the same article.

My question is did the parents know ahead of time that their kid was taking a knife to school? If they did, I'd let the punishment stand. If the kid snuck it to school (which is common), then I'd let it go.
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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Art Vandelay » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:56 am

This is just the latest example of why "zero tolerance" rules are ridiculous. I'd argue that knives shouldn't be outlawed in schools at all, rather, we should regulate behavior.
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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby scottaa1 » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:01 am

or give evveryone a knife, so you know your opponent can stab back. ;-)

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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby joejlitz » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:20 pm

I think everyone should be able to bring their weapon of choice to school. I would have brought my hawk, David.

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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Madison » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:01 am

Art Vandelay wrote:This is just the latest example of why "zero tolerance" rules are ridiculous. I'd argue that knives shouldn't be outlawed in schools at all, rather, we should regulate behavior.


Oh come on Art, it's not always ridiculous :-b , they dismissed it in this case and the kid is back in school.

And allow knives in school? The benefit would be...?
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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:57 am

joejlitz wrote:I think everyone should be able to bring their weapon of choice to school. I would have brought my hawk, David.

(Let's see who gets that obscure and somewhat irrelevant reference)


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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:37 am

Madison wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:This is just the latest example of why "zero tolerance" rules are ridiculous. I'd argue that knives shouldn't be outlawed in schools at all, rather, we should regulate behavior.


Oh come on Art, it's not always ridiculous :-b , they dismissed it in this case and the kid is back in school.

And allow knives in school? The benefit would be...?

Yes, 'zero tolerance' laws are always ridiculous, in my opinion. And the benefit of allowing knives in school would be having knives in school, in addition to not having another stupid zero tolerance rule. Knives are a tool, they don't need to be regulated any more than screwdrivers. What needs to be regulated is one's behavior...what they do with the knife. I used to bring a knife to school every day, I needed it when I went to work after school. Now I couldn't even leave it locked in my car on school grounds.
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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby dream_017 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:54 am

Art Vandelay wrote:Yes, 'zero tolerance' laws are always ridiculous, in my opinion.

I always love reading the articles about a drunk driver killing someone. They usually have some type of line in the story where they have been pulled over before or already had their license suspended. Always makes me feel better that they get that second, third and forth chance to kill someone. Down with zero tolerance.
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Re: Reform school for a 6 year old?

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:59 am

dream_017 wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Yes, 'zero tolerance' laws are always ridiculous, in my opinion.

I always love reading the articles about a drunk driver killing someone. They usually have some type of line in the story where they have been pulled over before or already had their license suspended. Always makes me feel better that they get that second, third and forth chance to kill someone. Down with zero tolerance.

That's a horrible example, and actually illustrates how zero tolerance doesn't work.
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