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Re: Heisman talk

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:56 am

Metroid wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:
Metroid wrote:And yeah I agree with you knapp, Ingram is a good kid and very likable.


Seems like he's always hyperventilating in his interviews. :-b

He does, he just seems very humble and nervous about all the attention....which is refreshing really. I like confidence too, but it's refreshing to see a kid truly thankful and honestly not expecting to be the center of attention. He seems like a kid that really understands the gift he's been given, I like that.


Yeah, I agree with you there. I get a little tired of the choreographed interviews.
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby The Lung » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:14 pm

The name of this thread has been changed appropriately. ;-D
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:37 am

Just curious. If Ingram was in fact the "most outstanding player" in the country, why didn't he win the highest award for his position? The Doak Walker award goes to the best running back in the country.

1994 Rashaan Salaam: Heisman winner/Doak Walker winner
1995 Eddie George: Heisman winner/Doak Walker winner
1998 Ricky Williams: Heisamn winner/Doak Walker winner
1999 Ron Dayne: Heisman winner/Doak Walker winner
2005 Reggie Bush: Heisman winner/Doak Walker winner
2009 Mark Ingram: Heisman winner/Do'h! Toby!

Every year since 1990, the year the first Doak Walker award was handed out, if it was a running back who won the Heisman, they won the Doak Walker award too. Regardless of whether you think the winner should have been Suh or Gerhart, the award most certainly should not have gone to Ingram, he wasn't even the best at his own position.
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:42 am

Yeah, I thought that was a little odd too. Unless they're trying to be PC and let everybody win something :-° . Same thing with the Maxwell award (Player Of The Year) that McCoy won. Shouldn't that have gone hand in hand with the Heisman as well?
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:Yeah, I thought that was a little odd too. Unless they're trying to be PC and let everybody win something :-° . Same thing with the Maxwell award (Player Of The Year) that McCoy won. Shouldn't that have gone hand in hand with the Heisman as well?



Tebow won the Maxwell last year, but no Heisman. I would honestly rather win the Maxwell. The problem with the heisman, and it goes for both Met and your question, is that is has no clear cut criteria. It only says college's most oustanding player. That is it. It doesn't even say the most outstanding college player if the year. With that definition, I would argue Tebow should have won because I don't think anyone can argue that for a career he is the most outstanding college player out of the guys listed. (I am not syaing he should have won, so please do not go crazy) The doak and maxwell have criteria for the voters that vote on it. The heisman is a poll of writers and former winners about popularity.
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:32 pm

2009 Heisman Trophy Voting by Region

NORTHEAST

1 Mark Ingram, 238

2 Toby Gerhart, 219

3 Colt McCoy, 179

4 Ndamukong Suh, 104

5 Tim Tebow, 83

MID-ATLANTIC

1 Mark Ingram, 222

2 Toby Gerhart, 187

2 Colt McCoy, 187

4 Ndamukong Suh, 105

5 Tim Tebow, 57

SOUTH

1 Mark Ingram, 254

2 Toby Gerhart, 176

3 Colt McCoy, 165

4 Ndamukong Suh, 113

5 Tim Tebow, 106

SOUTHWEST

1 Ndamukong Suh, 254

2 Colt McCoy, 216

3 Mark Ingram, 214

4 Toby Gerhart, 180

5 Tim Tebow, 33

MIDWEST

1 Mark Ingram, 214

2 Toby Gerhart, 206

3 Colt McCoy, 173

4 Ndamukong Suh, 146

5 Tim Tebow, 45

FAR WEST

1 Toby Gerhart, 319

2 Colt McCoy, 214

3 Mark Ingram, 153

4 Ndamukong Suh, 93

5 Tim Tebow, 66
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby WaCougMBS » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:36 pm

LOL, I love the re-title for this post :-b
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:50 pm

Article puts into words what we've all been saying...
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:03 pm

Suh wins AP Player of the Year. ;-D

Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh rushed past the guys who play the glamour positions and proved you don't have to score touchdowns or toss passes to be the player of the year.

Thanks in large part by a dominant performance against Texas in the Big 12 title game, Suh became the first ever player from the defensive side of the ball voted The Associated Press College Football Player of the Year on Tuesday.

Suh added the honor to a list that includes the Bronco Nagurski and Chuck Bednarik awards - both rewarded to the best overall defensive player - and the Lombardi, and Outland trophies which are awarded to the nation's best linemen.


Man if this guy somehow falls down the draft board to Cleveland I'll wet myself. O:-)
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Re: The Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:32 pm

Awesome. Hadn't even heard that yet.
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