Sorry if this is long, but there's a lot of info to relay here so you get the big picture.
I'm in a 20 team dynasty league, first year. Scoring is pretty standard except for QB's and Kickers.
Anyway, the starting rosters and bench are as deep as the league is. For a 20 team league this is kind of insane, but on offense you start:
QB RB RB WR WR WR WR/RB/TE TE
That's 40 RB's and 60 WR's that need to be started each week. I gambled and took WR's early in the draft, grabbed P. Thomas in Rd 3 and then reached on some other RB's late. Needless to say, I'm weak at RB but O.K. at WR.
I have: P. Thomas Ricky Williams (who's been quite a nice surprise for me) D. Ward (Huge dissapointment) M. Bell J. Fargas
R. Moss P. Harvin S. Smith (NYG) P. Garcon N. Washington C. Henry
Now with the exception of PT and R. Williams my RB's stink (although Bell is nice to have when Thomas doesn't play) so I looked around and found a team with the opposite problem, Great RB depth and no WR's so I offered him this:
R. Moss & D. Ward for C. Benson
He turned it down and counter offered me:
R. Williams & P. Harvin for C. Benson & S. Smith (Car)
I'm not so sure I want to do this. I really would like to have Benson and as skeptical as I've been on him he finally won me over last week, but although he is an upgrade from Williams, I would still have a RB depth problem. Not only that, but this is a Dynasty league and I think Harvin is worth a lot more in future years.
Oh, here's what he has for RB's and WR's:
M. Turner C. Benson A. Bradshaw R. Mendenhall L. McCoy
W. Welker S. Smith (Car) Josh Morgan Malcom Kelly
Please chime in with any opinions or if you think I should counter offer with something else. I'm actually considering going Moss for Bradshaw straight up. That would set me up for better for future seasons.
I don't care if my WR I get in a dynasty league is got some age on them, I like to be good and young at RB. Ricky Williams ain't no spring chicken and he's eventually going to wear down. Steve Smith is the kind of guy that you can count on even into his 30s.
Your getting Benson who is still relatively young and his most productive seasons are the next couple. Don't completely give up on the present just to go after wins later.
This trade IMO is a steal for you.
Its a huge upgrade at RB and younger and a nice upgrade at WR despite the age difference.
Go for the win now and then maybe package Steve Smith in the offseason for younger talent and a draft pick or two. If not reap the benefit's of carolina's most explosive playmaker.
I would accept this deal before the other guy yanks it off the table. Starting talent in such a deep league is very hard to come by. I am used to playing in larger rosters or larger team size leagues so I am well knowledged in deep league play.
Go for it and don't look back.
Just curious, I know things are picked over but could you look to the back of your FA listings and post any players that might have slipped through the cracks. If you are serious about the future you can take one or two fliers for later since your upgrading your starting lineup considerably.
There is absolutely nothing on the FA pool in this league. It's pretty well picked over.
The top 3 RB's available (sorted by fantasy points scored) are: Heath Evans (NO) Jason Snelling (Atl) Brian Leanard (Cin)
The top 3 WR's are: Mark Bradley (who was just dropped today) Brandon Stokley Jason Avante
The only thing I don't like about the current trade situation is that I've still got problems with RB depth. The whole point of my initial offer was to get a 3rd RB to go with PT and R. Wiliams. I do agree with you that Benson is a huge upgrade for the future considering William's age, but then I'm making the opposite move getting Smith for Harvin.
One more piece of information that I left out is that the league counts points for PR/KR yardage. That makes Harvin even more valuable. I'm not averse to letting Williams go, but Harvin would be tough for me even if I am getting S. Smith.
Yikes...there are a lot of variables to consider here. And upon first glance, I think working different deals might be tough because he has more value at RB than you do at WR, in my opinion. Looking only at the trade at hand and its impact this season, I have to agree with the previous poster. This is an ugrade on both accounts without adding any problems you didn't already have. Now, if you have started off 0-5 and are pretty sure you're not going to the post season, then your dynasty considerations about Harvin are more than valid. And this trade doesn't make as much sense. But my philosophy has always been that if playoff hopes are alive you do whatever it takes to win. Because even a bad team can win it all with some good matchups late in the season. Not sure if I actually provided any earthshattering commentary there, but if you are still in it to win this season, I don't think you will go wrong with the trade proposed. Thanks for helping on mine!
i have read too much into the replies so this might of been mentioned already, but ill ass my 2 cents in.
You are worried about your RB depth, and Bensen over Williams is an obvious upgrade right there...at least you are improving.
Steve Smith(Car) is obviously the better reciever. Age really isnt a factor in recievers as it is RBs. What...smith is 29? Donald Driver(35) 2 seasons ago Marvin Harrison was 34 i think. How old was Jerry RIce when he retired?..exactly..just examples. Reggie Wayne is 30,..i think 30 is Prime years for a star WR. Experience, wisdom, and they really havent lost their athletisism unless they have been plagued with injuries.
So that much...Smith is way better than harvin, besides...Harvin will be out this game, and there is not enough passes to go around, he is plagued with migrane headaches, and he has berrian, and a quickly emerging Sidney RIce stealing targets, favre should retire this year if he knows whats good for his health...Steve Smith gets all looks, and if Car gets a hold of a better QB..he will do even better.