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Postby Daddymike59 » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:18 am

He's been workin' his a** off with those barbie dolls ever since he got hurt so GET OFF HIM.! I TOO am one of the mentally Fuc@*# THAT PICKED HIM 1ST IN 2 LEAGUES BUT HE'S BEEN KEEPING gi joe VERY HAPPY SINCE.
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Postby guest9 » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:55 am

Anybody who picked Vick (I mean Michael, sorry) in the top 4 rounds after his injury is crazy. Same for the 1st rounders pre-injury. That is not wise drafting by value, at his best he simply does not produce enough additional points over the other top 10 QB's to merit this. Making moves like this leaves a team with crap RB's in comparison to other teams. Even if Vick had never been injured and had produced 30 fantasy points every game, the overall fantasy team would still suck because it is giving away a large point differential at the RB position. All this whining about "I got screwed by Vick" really should read "I suck at drafting a fantasy team."
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Postby KingGhidra » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:35 am

guest9 wrote:Anybody who picked Vick (I mean Michael, sorry) in the top 4 rounds after his injury is crazy. Same for the 1st rounders pre-injury. That is not wise drafting by value, at his best he simply does not produce enough additional points over the other top 10 QB's to merit this. Making moves like this leaves a team with crap RB's in comparison to other teams. Even if Vick had never been injured and had produced 30 fantasy points every game, the overall fantasy team would still suck because it is giving away a large point differential at the RB position. All this whining about "I got screwed by Vick" really should read "I suck at drafting a fantasy team."


Uh huh.

Well if he really averaged 30 FFL points/game he'd be well worthy of a #1 pick since that comes out to 480 points which is about 40% of the points you need to win in a season. People were projecting about 25 FFL points/game for him (very lofty), which would make him worth of a top 5 pick (but not #1 or #2 overall).

At his best, I think he'd be worth a late first rounder, early second rounder.
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Postby greatgretzky » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:14 am

if he had produced, picking him in the first round wouldn't be that bad to be honest. i knwo people insist on backs. But if you couple that with waiver wire awareness, it isn't a big problem. So if you took vick in the first round with a ladder pick in the first round, you could have still gotten a good back coming back around, and a good wr in round three. ultimately, the goal is to score the most points, not get the most from rb's. the rb's are jsut one way, and the most likely way to get the points. if helathy, the team (in my league could have had, vick, ahman green/jamal lewis/steven davis. Then in third round could have had holt or hines ward. If they got lamar gordon in the beginning then dropped him, the same team could have had dominack davis or rudi johnson or brian westrbrook and had a real nasty team on their hands. I don't think it should eb absoloute gospel to take a rb in the first round, it is jsut wise and playing the percentages. iw ould rather have moss or holt instead of dillon this year, or for that matter, ricky williams. but to espouse that before the draft, people would say you are nuts.
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Re: For all you Vick owners

Postby Guttpuppy » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:18 pm

Azrael wrote:
Cake wrote:
One more week off for the choosen one. God does he heal slow.


Is it that or has he turned out to be a big fat Pu**y


This is just a stupid remark Az.I'm not gonna waste my time on this but I'd be willing to bet he could kick your ass.
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Re: For all you Vick owners

Postby Redskins Win » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:28 pm

Guttpuppy wrote:
Azrael wrote:
Cake wrote:
One more week off for the choosen one. God does he heal slow.


Is it that or has he turned out to be a big fat Pu**y


This is just a stupid remark Az.I'm not gonna waste my time on this but I'd be willing to bet he could kick your ass.


I bet he can kick AZ's ass but, i really think there is some truth to calling him that name. what's he done to get back and try to help his team, nothing. excuse after excuse, not to mention what he's done to the owners and the fans. Mikey has made the sport about him. And now he gets stepped on in practice by the practice squad no less he's really grasping for any reason not to play this season. maybe calling him a puzzy isn't the right word maybe he's just gone soft
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Postby Guttpuppy » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:35 pm

Gimme a break.There is no help for his team...He's a pro,sometimes professsionals get hurt and can't play,simple as that.

Let me see you take a hit from an NFL linebacker then get back up and run another play.He's not soft,just looking out for his best interests,just as anyone else would.
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Postby Redskins Win » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:13 pm

Guttpuppy wrote:Gimme a break.There is no help for his team...He's a pro,sometimes professsionals get hurt and can't play,simple as that.

Let me see you take a hit from an NFL linebacker then get back up and run another play.He's not soft,just looking out for his best interests,just as anyone else would.

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Postby VHawk15 » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:30 pm

Guttpuppy wrote:Gimme a break.There is no help for his team...He's a pro,sometimes professsionals get hurt and can't play,simple as that.

Let me see you take a hit from an NFL linebacker then get back up and run another play.He's not soft,just looking out for his best interests,just as anyone else would.


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