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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby Nfl Fan » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:54 pm

scottaa1 wrote:
Nfl Fan wrote:Breaking news... just heard on ESPN that he'll miss the ENTIRE GAME. Oooooohh... ;-7


well, at least he'll have more time to study his anatomy text. so he can find the guys eyes next time.


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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby Sandrock » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:10 pm

It's pretty sad when a player has to ask his coach to do the right thing. How pathetic does Florida football look right now?
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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby Free Bagel » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:41 am

I take back what I said about Blount. Sorry Met, the media spun crap is the only kind of Oregon news we get down here :\.

As far as the UGA player getting Spikes' eye, I doubt it was as intentional that they were going for the eye specifically. That said, it's not just something he made up afterwards, as he was shown on TV missing a drive while they inspected his eye. UGA was taking shots at Spikes' head all game long after the plays were over, to the point where they actually drew two personal fouls for it, and I'm guessing it happened on one of those plays. On one, Ealey (the guy who Spikes went after) shoved Spikes in the neck/lower face area. In two others, Georgia linemen ripped Spikes' helmet off after the play was over and drew flags. Ealey even said in an interview that he didn't think Spikes should be suspended at all because this kind of stuff happens all the time in football, and that it was going back and forth all game long.

As far as how I feel about it, and whether or not I'm defending Spikes, I'm not. It was despicable, and as I said before, if they had manned up and suspended him the entire season I wouldn't have thought that was too much. However, all I'm saying is that Florida did what every other program would do, and has done in this situation, and followed the precedent that has been set. You can all sit here in your goody goody imaginary world and say that your coach would have suspended him for the year, but you'd be wrong and probably don't even really believe it yourself. You can sit here and say that if you were the coach with millions of dollars and tons of pressure on the line you'd make the focus of your team making the game so pure that jesus would play it, but you wouldn't.

To say that whether or not he was successful in gouging the eye is irrelevant is foolish, at least as far as the precedent is concerned. You can say it matters to you, which is easy to do from your desk chair, but we've seen how much it matters to the people actually in these situations. Wasn't it Georgia themselves a few years ago that got caught twisting Ciatrick Fason's knee in a pile after the play? Then not long before that FSU got caught putting Earnest Graham into a Ken Shamrock style ankle lock on the bottom of a pile? No suspensions or discipline to the players at all there, but does anyone really believe that if Fason's knee had popped or Graham's ankle had snapped those guys wouldn't have been kicked out of the NCAA entirely? Florida has been on the other end people trying to cause serious injuries to them plenty of times over the last few years, with even less harsh (read: no) penalties applied to those guys.

Like I said earlier, this is an NCAA wide thing, not a Florida thing. Florida actually went beyond the precedent that has been set for stuff like this in the past (IE if it missed, ignore it). That doesn't make it right, but I'm not stupid enough to delude myself to think that Urban Meyer has more morals than every other coach out there and thinks that football is just a vehicle for making a few kids into better people. Hey, maybe one day Tim Tebow will become a coach and we'll have that :-b. And maybe some day someone will set a better precedent, but I doubt it will be the #1 team doing it to their 2nd best player for a play where even the "victim" laughed it off and said it was no big deal.
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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby Metroid » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:05 am

Free Bagel wrote:I take back what I said about Blount. Sorry Met, the media spun crap is the only kind of Oregon news we get down here :\.


No worries man, I was pretty sure that was what had happened. My cousins out in Alabama called me a couple weeks after the incident and said similar things about Blount. They had just been fed this information about how Blount was a terrible person in the locker room, an awful teammate, and had been suspended from the team multiple times for similar incidents. It's really too bad that the media spins things so badly, it's not fair to the programs but more importantly it's not fair to the student athletes. Sorry if I sounded snippy too by the way. :-/

I have to commend Spikes for taking himself out for an entire game, that is a really stand up thing to do and one he didn't have to. ;-D
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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby portisfan24 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:44 pm

I'm late on this, but did nobody see the interview with Ealy where he said he didn't think Spikes should be suspended at all? I just looked for the article but couldn't find it. If the victim doesn't even think the play warrants a penatly, who are we to judge? I agree it was a brutal play and that he should miss some time, but come on, this is football. Its an intense game and obviously his emotions got the best of him. I'm not condoning it, but I'm highly doubting he came in to that game wanting to poke someones eye out.
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Re: My hate of the Gators has deepened 100 fold....

Postby Metroid » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:41 pm

Yeah I did read that Ealy said that, doesn't change my opinion though, that's just a football player sticking up for another football player.
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