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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby FearandLoathinginATL » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:30 pm

Well, looks like the shooter is going to be paralyzed:

Fort Hood, Texas (CNN) -- Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the accused Fort Hood gunman, is paralyzed from the waist down, his lawyer said Friday.

"It appears he won't be able to walk in the future," said Hasan's civilian attorney, retired Army Col. John Galligan.

Hasan also has severe pain in his hands, the attorney said.

Authorities say Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, opened fire at a military processing center at Fort Hood on November 5, killing 13 people. Two civilian officers engaged Hasan, wounding him. One officer was wounded.

Army officials announced Thursday that Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder, making him eligible for the death penalty.


Doesn't look like he's going to have too long to have to worry about that though...
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby joejlitz » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:30 pm

Exactly. The Uniform Code of Military Justice still allows for the death penalty and he most likely will be tried in Military courts given his status and the location of the murders. There shouldn't be any turf fight between the Army and the city of Kileen.

Premeditated murder, huh? I wonder if he knew most of these Soldiers as was initially suspected.

No matter what, this is cowardice.

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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:51 am

Someone commented on the last page, why not just shoot himself in the foot instead of killing people? This is the difference between then and now and parallels all those other stories of school and store shootings. Troubled people aren't just offing themselves or getting help for themselves. They're narcissists who prefer to let everybody know how hurt they are by making the biggest statement they possibly can. People get so focused on themselves in this day and age with their media and entertainment outlets. So much gets focused inward, when there are so many opportunities to focus things outward if you just look for them. And it's a win-win. You help yourself and you help others. But it's not as easy as sitting down and being angry I guess.
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby Nfl Fan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:29 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:Someone commented on the last page, why not just shoot himself in the foot instead of killing people? This is the difference between then and now and parallels all those other stories of school and store shootings. Troubled people aren't just offing themselves or getting help for themselves. They're narcissists who prefer to let everybody know how hurt they are by making the biggest statement they possibly can. People get so focused on themselves in this day and age with their media and entertainment outlets. So much gets focused inward, when there are so many opportunities to focus things outward if you just look for them. And it's a win-win. You help yourself and you help others. But it's not as easy as sitting down and being angry I guess.


Or they're terrorists. ;-7



wait, we don't get to say that about this guy, do we?
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:52 pm

Nfl Fan wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:Someone commented on the last page, why not just shoot himself in the foot instead of killing people? This is the difference between then and now and parallels all those other stories of school and store shootings. Troubled people aren't just offing themselves or getting help for themselves. They're narcissists who prefer to let everybody know how hurt they are by making the biggest statement they possibly can. People get so focused on themselves in this day and age with their media and entertainment outlets. So much gets focused inward, when there are so many opportunities to focus things outward if you just look for them. And it's a win-win. You help yourself and you help others. But it's not as easy as sitting down and being angry I guess.


Or they're terrorists. ;-7



wait, we don't get to say that about this guy, do we?


I'm not so sure I believe that. Sure, it's easy to suggest that considering his name and religious views, but how many years did he serve in the Army? He's either really good at keeping low profile for years upon years or he just all of a sudden decided he wanted to be Al-Qaeda.
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby Nfl Fan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:39 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:I'm not so sure I believe that. Sure, it's easy to suggest that considering his name and religious views, but how many years did he serve in the Army? He's either really good at keeping low profile for years upon years or he just all of a sudden decided he wanted to be Al-Qaeda.


Whether or not he is a 'terrorist' or not is yet to be determined. Nevertheless, the act itself is an act of terror. The fact that his associations and known views on the war on terror were lock-step in line with those of our enemies may be more than coincidence
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:48 am

I'm hesitant to get involved in this conversation for a couple of reasons: for one, I don't think it's important or even relevant to try to define this heinous, cowardly act. Whether or not it's "terrorism" doesn't matter to me in the least. Also, it's silly to me to argue about it when there is no universally accepted definition of "terrorism" (first person to quote Webster or dictionary.com gets the bozack). That said, I've never been abose the silly or having a debate for the sake of debating. I don't think this is terrorism. For reasons that are outlined much better in this article than I could ever explain them.
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby knapplc » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:26 am

The term "terrorism" and "terrorist" are thrown around too much these days. It's a buzzword that's losing its potency through overuse.
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Re: Fort Hood massacre

Postby stomperrob » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:04 pm

Way too many people ignored all the warning signs:

Major Nidal Hasan had an enabler
All those red flags but no one did anything. Political correctness took the lives of 14 people.
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