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Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby comm1680 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:04 pm

Interesting week for defense. Top 10 teams in the formula scored an average of 8.4 pts. But you had duds in there from Denver, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Philly. This has been very rare this year as any team that has -2000 score or better has finished over 10 pts in 19 of 26 matchups, prior to this week. I can blame it on injury or desperation for some teams, but either way, things look good for this week and hopefully you took my advice and grabbed Cincinatti.

For those who are new to the forum, the formula takes the yards, points, sacks, turnovers (int+fum recovered) per game for each defense and offense. Then, matches them up with some weighting to get those final rankings. Lower scores mean a more positive matchup for that defense. It does not take bye weeks, homefield advantage, or personnel changes into account.

This week's rankings:
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Team              Opponent           Score
Cincinatti        Oakland            -2955
Philadelphia      Chicago            -2360
Pittsburgh        Kansas City        -2261
Dallas            Washington         -2143
Minnesota         Seattle            -2141
Green Bay         San Fran           -2050
New Orleans       Tampa Bay          -1965
Detroit           Cleveland          -1878
Arizona           St. Louis          -1811
Cleveland         Detroit            -1663
San Fran          Green Bay          -1584
Miami             Carolina           -1519
Denver            San Diego          -1435
Buffalo           Jacksonville       -1104
Indianapolis      Baltimore          -1098
New England       New York Jets      -1097
Carolina          Miami              -1096
Washington        Dallas             -1083
Jacksonville      Buffalo             -928
San Diego         Denver              -836
New York Giants   Atlanta             -816
Chicago           Philadelphia        -767
Atlanta           New York Giants     -661
Kansas City       Pittsburgh          -638
Tennessee         Houston             -546
Houston           Tennessee           -400
Seattle           Minnesota           -367
Oakland           Cincinatti          -298
St. Louis         Arizona             -113
New York Jets     New England          -16
Baltimore         Indianapolis           7
Tampa Bay         New Orleans          151


The top 7 matchups look fantastic. I wouldn't hesitate to use any of those teams. Detroit, Cleveland, and San Fran look like good sleepers against teams that will give up turnovers. San Fran could do especially well, considering how much emotion GB put into the Dallas game. I'd probably go with them over the other 2 if I had the choice.

And here's updated rankings for the next 4 weeks (11-14):
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Team                     Score
Cincinatti               -9506
Pittsburgh               -9100
Philadelphia             -8595
Minnesota                -7355
Green Bay                -7298
New Orleans              -6326
San Diego                -6285
Dallas                   -6275
Denver                   -5797
Baltimore                -5743
Arizona                  -5403
Washington               -5046
New York Jets            -5042
Buffalo                  -4831
Indianapolis             -4764
San Fran                 -4686
New England              -4421
Miami                    -4285
Chicago                  -4165
Seattle                  -4086
New York Giants          -4012
Oakland                  -3821
Carolina                 -3300
Atlanta                  -3289
Cleveland                -3125
Detroit                  -2892
Tennessee                -2216
Houston                  -2035
Tampa Bay                -1769
Jacksonville             -1724
Kansas City              -1547
St. Louis                -1140


Cinci looks fantastic for the next few weeks. They are for real. If you want a defense for the rest of the year, Green Bay is worth looking at (if they got dropped) although I still think that offensive line tends to put them in bad spots, which can make them inconsistent. Arizona is also a good stash for the playoffs. San Diego and Dallas may be available as well. I'd pick either of up if you miss out on Cinci or GB.

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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby Amazing Oopah on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:06 pm

I've been picking up Cincy anywhere where they've been available. 3 tasty matchups in a row ;-D

And I think SD is ranked too low for this week... looks like Simms will be at QB and Denver is unraveling after their 6-0 start... SD def could pay huge dividends.
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby Sticky Fingers on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:26 pm

I will more than likely play the Eagles defense against the Bears but Detroit sure is looking like a pretty good play this week against the Browns. I know the Lions are not a good defense but I think any team playing the Browns will have a good defensive day. The Philly D going against the Bears worries me a bit.. The Bears and Cutler are capable of putting things together on offense and putting up some points. You would think Cutler will be a little safer with his passes after all the int's he's thrown. Maybe less inclined to make the tough throws into double and triple coverage. I guess Im looking for some reassurance on my Philly defense after they have scored -8, 6, & 6 points the last 3 weeks in my league.
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby TReeSMoKE on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:29 pm

Minnesota or Green Bay this week???
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby glackk on Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:35 am

Thanks as always comm. Looks like it is Cincy over Minny this week. ;-D
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby HomerJay on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:28 am

Yeahh thanks again comm...another helpful analysis ;-D

Sticky Fingers wrote:I will more than likely play the Eagles defense against the Bears but Detroit sure is looking like a pretty good play this week against the Browns. I know the Lions are not a good defense but I think any team playing the Browns will have a good defensive day. The Philly D going against the Bears worries me a bit.. The Bears and Cutler are capable of putting things together on offense and putting up some points. You would think Cutler will be a little safer with his passes after all the int's he's thrown. Maybe less inclined to make the tough throws into double and triple coverage. I guess Im looking for some reassurance on my Philly defense after they have scored -8, 6, & 6 points the last 3 weeks in my league.



I was actually thinking the same thing as Sticky here....I've got Philly and I'm starting Cutler which I hate doing. Cutler always seems to play well after having a bad game and especially when he's at home. Bah...I'm not going to overthink this one. I'll plug Philly in...if Cutler throws 5 int's again at least I'll get points this time.
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby diehardff on Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:23 pm

very helpful, although Im having an issue between Carolina DEF and NYG DEF for week 11.

CAR is playing MIA in which Henne doesnt have anyone to throw to, and ronnie brown is out for the season which means more throwing.

or I can go with

NYG playing ATL in which Ryan is struggling and Turner is hurt. Seems like these 2 should be upgraded, no?

your thoughts on the calculations for these teams would be highly appreciated (and if you could pick which one youd go with, that would be great as well)

Thanks and Good Job
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby trem52 on Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:02 pm

Love the results but have a hard choice this week.

Have Cincy and Philly D. Have to pick between your 1 and 2 on this list.

My league gives 1 pt per INT, FR, & Sack
6pts for shutout
3pts for <250 total yards
6 pts for DTD and Special Teams

With the change in OAK QB and Russell getting put on the bench do you think Bruce would be a little more conservative and less likely to give up the ball? As you can see only points for a shutout and under 250 yards no partial points for low scoring teams. Would that change your opinion on who to play this week.

Sitting at number 2 and looking good for the playoffs but need another win or two to clinch.

thanks for your help!
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby WaCougMBS on Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:49 pm

Great job as usual man! We've been pimping your formula on the Cafe's 4th and Goal podcast, so hopefully that will help with the exposure (amongst Cafe-goers at least) in the coming weeks!

I'm glad I got the Bengals as a throw-in in a trade, because I can put that part of my lineup on auto-pilot for the next three weeks and at least 4 of the last 6 ;-D
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 11

Postby kellysheroes on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:11 am

Really like the analysis.

I'm definitely in the playoffs and I have been playing the waiver wire most of the year for defenses. Other teams are starting to horde Ds, so pickins' are pretty slim.

I'm looking to the playoffs (wks 14-16). I currently have Atl and Mia. I could likely trade for Cin, Dal, Phi, or Balt. Do you have an analysis for wks 14-16. Since I'm already in the playoffs, wks 12 and 13 are not important.
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