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WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby comm1680 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:01 pm

Last week in the formula, you likely did pretty well if you had a top-10 ranked team. Outside of Baltimore, all teams were above 5 pts. Tops in that group were Green Bay, San Diego, Minnesota, and the New York Jets who all scored over 14. I was concerned with the Jets, but they got things back together and put together their 2nd straight fantasy-usable week. My sleeper in Seattle did fantastic with 15 pts and Arizona stayed respectable with 7.

For those who are new to the forum, the formula takes the yards, points, sacks, turnovers (int+fum recovered) per game for each defense and offense. Then, matches them up with some weighting to get those final rankings. Lower scores mean a more positive matchup for that defense. It does not take bye weeks, homefield advantage, or personnel changes into account.

Rankings for this week:
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Team                Opponent               Score
Pittsburgh          Oakland                -2816
New Orleans         Washington             -2540
Denver              Kansas City            -2392
Cincinatti          Detroit                -2371
San Diego           Cleveland              -2289
New York Jets       Buffalo                -2092
Minnesota           Arizona                -1720
Philadelphia        Atlanta                -1486
Chicago             St. Louis              -1437
Carolina            Tampa Bay              -1421
Tampa Bay           Carolina               -1349
Baltimore           Green Bay              -1348
Buffalo             New York Jets          -1346
Seattle             San Fran               -1312
San Fran            Seattle                -1303
Green Bay           Baltimore              -1224
New England         Miami                  -1134
Oakland             Pittsburgh             -1074
Houston             Jacksonville           -1059
Indianapolis        Tennessee               -986
New York Giants     Dallas                  -860
Dallas              New York Giants         -827
Atlanta             Philadelphia            -742
St. Louis           Chicago                 -721
Arizona             Minnesota               -537
Miami               New England             -295
Washington          New Orleans              -80
Kansas City         Denver                   -36
Detroit             Cincinatti               -28
Jacksonville        Houston                  -13
Cleveland           San Diego                114
Tennessee           Indianapolis             256


Most of the starts look pretty obvious this week. I don't think you should be afraid to start any of the top 10 defenses. This includes my sleeper for this week, Carolina. I'd also feel ok starting Tampa here. I'd usually avoid a division rivalry like this, but considering the strength of the Carolina pass defense and Matt Moore starting, both defenses should perform well.

I've also included next week's forecast for those in a tight playoff race.

Rankings for next week:
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Team              Opponent             Score
Pittsburgh        Cleveland            -2576
Washington        Oakland              -2292
Baltimore         Detroit              -2033
Green Bay         Chicago              -1972
Buffalo           Kansas City          -1916
New England       Carolina             -1888
Minnesota         Cincinatti           -1742
New York Jets     Tampa Bay            -1709
Arizona           San Fran             -1693
Miami             Jacksonville         -1586
Oakland           Washington           -1568
New Orleans       Atlanta              -1539
Philadelphia      New York Giants      -1415
Tennessee         St. Louis            -1340
Indianapolis      Denver               -1269
Chicago           Green Bay            -1205
San Diego         Dallas               -1158
Kansas City       Buffalo              -1022
Houston           Seattle               -930
New York Giants   Philadelphia          -909
Tampa Bay         New York Jets         -888
San Fran          Arizona               -822
Cleveland         Pittsburgh            -797
Seattle           Houston               -758
Cincinatti        Minnesota             -577
Denver            Indianapolis          -508
Dallas            San Diego             -492
Jacksonville      Miami                 -176
Carolina          New England            -44
Detroit           Baltimore               92
St. Louis         Tennessee              119
Atlanta           New Orleans            147


Weeks 14-16 Rankings:
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Team               Score
Minnesota          -6789
Arizona            -5903
Pittsburgh         -5798
Green Bay          -5581
New England        -5439
New Orleans        -5415
Philadelphia       -5119
Baltimore          -4769
Indianapolis       -4730
Denver             -4695
New York Giants    -4448
Oakland            -4031
Washington         -3985
Cleveland          -3918
San Fran           -3805
Cincinatti         -3495
Seattle            -3437
Miami              -3388
San Diego          -3190
Buffalo            -2934
New York Jets      -2895
Houston            -2811
Atlanta            -2699
Dallas             -2527
Tennessee          -2237
Kansas City        -2120
Chicago            -1860
Tampa Bay          -1369
Carolina            -839
Detroit             -514
St. Louis            -62
Jacksonville        1376


If Green Bay is somehow available, they have a nice remaining schedule. Also, Indy looks to be a good defense for the playoffs. I'm not concerned with them sitting people. Combining a team like the Jets for this and next week and then Indy for the playoffs could work nicely.
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 13

Postby Drew_70 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:17 pm

Awesome post as always!! ;-D ;-D ;-D

These posts should be "stickied" to the top of this forum!!
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Re: Waiver Wire Defense formula - Week 13

Postby glackk » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:12 am

Washington 2nd highest next week! Is that how bad Oakland's offense is? 8-o

Oh well, now is not the time to be doubting the comm. Washington it is! :-B
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby DirtyDawg10 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:47 am

I'm also surprized to see Washington's D so high on the list next week. Granted they are playing Oakland.

I'm equally surprized to see that Tenessee's D vs. STL isn't ranked higher on the list for next week. I may go with Tenessee over Washington for next week.
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby sirchadwick1 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:59 pm

I just dropped CIN to pick up NO. It's the worst week to do it as CIN is going to demolish DET, but I'm 10-2 and this is not a must win week for me as I'm already #1 w/ a week 14 BYE. NO has looked solid all year and I'm hoping they can carry me through 15 and 16 to another championship. Still stunned someone dropped them last week just b/c they played NE.
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby Eighty-Five » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:48 am

Great stuff.

I know the rankings don't take home field advantage or personnel changes into effect, but considering those, would the face GB is home against Baltimore on a Monday Night move them up? Or the fact KC hasn't lost to Denver at home in December in 14+ years (and as bad as they were last year, scored 33 on Denver in a win at Arrowhead) - would that move Denver down?

I need a win and have GB, Denver, and the Jets.
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby WaCougMBS » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:42 pm

Any chance we'll be seeing a week-by-week playoff breakdown before the fact? I am specifically wondering if keeping Denver for week 15 (versus the Raiders) is worth it (Which I think it prolly is), or if I could/should drop them to add some depth at a skill position and play the matchups when the time comes...

I have Cincy for a nice start this week and in week 16, but I'll need a quality start out of someone in week 15 to get there in the first place...thoughts? :-?
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby Amazing Oopah » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:49 pm

I'm rolling with the Jets tonight in two leagues where I have a shot at the playoffs... hope it pays off
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby comm1680 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:52 pm

Eighty-Five wrote:I know the rankings don't take home field advantage or personnel changes into effect, but considering those, would the face GB is home against Baltimore on a Monday Night move them up? Or the fact KC hasn't lost to Denver at home in December in 14+ years (and as bad as they were last year, scored 33 on Denver in a win at Arrowhead) - would that move Denver down?

I need a win and have GB, Denver, and the Jets.


Hopefully you played the Jets. If not, I could see GB doing ok here. Though, you need to keep in mind that the Ravens basically just played the same defense last week (Pitt).


WaCougMBS wrote:Any chance we'll be seeing a week-by-week playoff breakdown before the fact? I am specifically wondering if keeping Denver for week 15 (versus the Raiders) is worth it (Which I think it prolly is), or if I could/should drop them to add some depth at a skill position and play the matchups when the time comes...

I have Cincy for a nice start this week and in week 16, but I'll need a quality start out of someone in week 15 to get there in the first place...thoughts? :-?


I have been running that stats for those week on my end. It's just a lot to publish at this point. I will give a give a week by week playoff preview next week to help you out. Regarding your situation, particularly, I think Denver should be a good play that week, especially considering it's at Denver.
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Re: WW Defense formula - Week 13 (also Playoff outlook)

Postby sophus » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:08 pm

Eighty-Five wrote:Great stuff.

I know the rankings don't take home field advantage or personnel changes into effect, but considering those, would the face GB is home against Baltimore on a Monday Night move them up? Or the fact KC hasn't lost to Denver at home in December in 14+ years (and as bad as they were last year, scored 33 on Denver in a win at Arrowhead) - would that move Denver down?

I need a win and have GB, Denver, and the Jets.


I got burned by NO this week as well. Had CIN early in the week but then late, I changed to NO because CIN just wasn't putting up the numbers they should.

Going to stick with picking the defense that is playing the worst teams: TB, Det, KC, StL.
NOTE: Cle and OAK have lost their 'pushover' status since they seem to have settled on a QB.

I'd put Car, Jax, and Cle in the tier below.

Maybe Atl too - what the heck happened in Week 13?
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