knapplc wrote:The little itty bitty schools, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Missouri, and Baylor, will have to fork over to Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M their share of the Nebraska and Colorado penalty money, according to SI's Stewart Mandel.
Apparently that was a false report, and the five remaining Big 12 North teams only offered to give them revenue, not exit money. I'm not sure how much better that is.
But I agree with you knapp. I think that eventually something has to give with the southern schools pretty much running the conference. I think that the Big 12 North schools were all scared of the prospect of having to join the Mountain West and potentially losing out on the exposure and revenue that the Big 12 receives. Being in a conference that is pretty much run by Texas sucks a lot, but being in one that doesn't get an automatic BCS bid would probably be worse.
If the Mountain West or Conference USA or some other conference that would make sense for the Big 12 North teams to join ever gets a BCS bid and some sufficient revenue, that could be the tipping point for the Big 12. Half of the conference still despises the power Texas has and that their interests aren't represented enough. The problem is that they don't have any better options at this point. Once another conference gives them that option, the Big 12 is probably toast.
It probably already would be if the Big 10 didn't want to dilly dally so much with expansion plans, thus forcing Mizzou officials to decide now whether they wanted to commit to a 10-team Big 12 or roll the dice with the Big 10, with the penalty being having to join the Mountain West or Conference USA if the Big 10 declines and ruining their relationships with Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St. and Baylor for royally screwing them over.
For the record, I think all the animosity toward Nebraska and Colorado is completely stupid and probably motivated by jealousy. I want Mizzou to leave the Big 12 for the same reasons that those two schools left: another conference can offer equal respect among conference peers (something the Big 12 sorely, sorely lacks) and more money than the Big 12. Nebraska and Colorado have much, much better situations now than they did before, and I don't blame them at all for leaving. I wish it was Mizzou leaving instead/also, but Nebraska was a better choice for the Big 10.
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SALT LAKE CITY -- SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah's road to the BCS just became a lot less complicated.
As the newest member of the Pac-10, the Utes will be playing for a guaranteed spot in one of college football's elite bowl games rather than hoping to sneak in with an at-large berth -- as they've done twice before.
Utah officially joined the Pac-10 on Thursday, leaving the Mountain West Conference for the prestige and more lucrative opportunities of a league where things such as the Heisman Trophy, Final Four and national titles are distinct possibilities instead of long shots.
"Today is an absolutely great day to be a Ute," athletic director Chris Hill said Thursday before he was interrupted by applause during a news conference.
The Pac-10 invited Utah to join the league on Wednesday and university President Michael Young officially signed on in front of a crowd of elated boosters a day later.
I'll ask again, anyone want to make any predictions on how the conference will be divided into divisions now that the Pac 10 has the necessary 12 for a title game?
Oh and I really hope they don't change the conference title, "The Pac 10" is fine the way it is.
Metroid wrote:Oh and I really hope they don't change the conference title, "The Pac 10" is fine the way it is.
It will be interesting how they treat the names ,especially since the 2 with 10 in the name have 12 teams and the conference with 12 in the name has 10 teams. I'd like them to keep the names too
SALT LAKE CITY -- SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah's road to the BCS just became a lot less complicated.
As the newest member of the Pac-10, the Utes will be playing for a guaranteed spot in one of college football's elite bowl games rather than hoping to sneak in with an at-large berth -- as they've done twice before.
Utah officially joined the Pac-10 on Thursday, leaving the Mountain West Conference for the prestige and more lucrative opportunities of a league where things such as the Heisman Trophy, Final Four and national titles are distinct possibilities instead of long shots.
"Today is an absolutely great day to be a Ute," athletic director Chris Hill said Thursday before he was interrupted by applause during a news conference.
The Pac-10 invited Utah to join the league on Wednesday and university President Michael Young officially signed on in front of a crowd of elated boosters a day later.
I'll ask again, anyone want to make any predictions on how the conference will be divided into divisions now that the Pac 10 has the necessary 12 for a title game?
Oh and I really hope they don't change the conference title, "The Pac 10" is fine the way it is.
I say Zipper with the natural rival always one of the out of division games. This way everyone always gets a pivotal game in Southern Cal at least every other year which is vital for recruiting purposes.
SALT LAKE CITY -- SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah's road to the BCS just became a lot less complicated.
As the newest member of the Pac-10, the Utes will be playing for a guaranteed spot in one of college football's elite bowl games rather than hoping to sneak in with an at-large berth -- as they've done twice before.
Utah officially joined the Pac-10 on Thursday, leaving the Mountain West Conference for the prestige and more lucrative opportunities of a league where things such as the Heisman Trophy, Final Four and national titles are distinct possibilities instead of long shots.
"Today is an absolutely great day to be a Ute," athletic director Chris Hill said Thursday before he was interrupted by applause during a news conference.
The Pac-10 invited Utah to join the league on Wednesday and university President Michael Young officially signed on in front of a crowd of elated boosters a day later.
I'll ask again, anyone want to make any predictions on how the conference will be divided into divisions now that the Pac 10 has the necessary 12 for a title game?
Oh and I really hope they don't change the conference title, "The Pac 10" is fine the way it is.
I say Zipper with the natural rival always one of the out of division games. This way everyone always gets a pivotal game in Southern Cal at least every other year which is vital for recruiting purposes.
Washington State, Oregon, Utah, Stanford, USC, Arizona State
I like the idea of a zipper format but what makes you think you Oregon State will get Washington in their division? Oregon/Washington is a much bigger rivalry game than Oregon St./Wash. I don't want to lose that game every year. I'd like to see the format above as well, except flip the Wash. schools.
I hope it doesn't happen but I wouldn't be surprised to see a North/South split either, the schools in the North would be livid if this happens. Pac-10 North Division
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, California, Stanford
Pac-10 South Division
UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Equally important, where is the Championship Game held? California or Arizona sounds like a nice idea weather wise, but that would give the schools from those states an unfair advantage, especially the Cali schools if it were in Cali somewhere. It has to be at a neutral site or the site has to rotate regionally based on a predetermined schedule.
What about playing the title game in Nevada? Regionally it makes sense, it's a "neutral" state close to all the schools. Unfortunately the only stadiums in Nevada that could hold a title game for the Pac is either at UNLV's Sam Boyd stadium or at UNR's Mackay Stadium. Neither are very alluring to say the least. The revenue generated from the title game could produce a new stadium in the future though...no?
I have two other thoughts for the title game. First, somewhere in Texas. How bout Jerry Jones new baby? That would be pretty sweet.
Or what about Hawaii? I wouldn't mind traveling to Hawaii in December for a title game.
I'll ask again, anyone want to make any predictions on how the conference will be divided into divisions now that the Pac 10 has the necessary 12 for a title game?
Oh and I really hope they don't change the conference title, "The Pac 10" is fine the way it is.
I say Zipper with the natural rival always one of the out of division games. This way everyone always gets a pivotal game in Southern Cal at least every other year which is vital for recruiting purposes.
Washington State, Oregon, Utah, Stanford, USC, Arizona State
I like the idea of a zipper format but what makes you think you Oregon State will get Washington in their division? Oregon/Washington is a much bigger rivalry game than Oregon St./Wash. I don't want to lose that game every year. I'd like to see the format above as well, except flip the Wash. schools.
I hope it doesn't happen but I wouldn't be surprised to see a North/South split either, the schools in the North would be livid if this happens. Pac-10 North Division
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, California, Stanford
Pac-10 South Division
UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Equally important, where is the Championship Game held? California or Arizona sounds like a nice idea weather wise, but that would give the schools from those states an unfair advantage, especially the Cali schools if it were in Cali somewhere. It has to be at a neutral site or the site has to rotate regionally based on a predetermined schedule.
What about playing the title game in Nevada? Regionally it makes sense, it's a "neutral" state close to all the schools. Unfortunately the only stadiums in Nevada that could hold a title game for the Pac is either at UNLV's Sam Boyd stadium or at UNR's Mackay Stadium. Neither are very alluring to say the least. The revenue generated from the title game could produce a new stadium in the future though...no?
I have two other thoughts for the title game. First, somewhere in Texas. How bout Jerry Jones new baby? That would be pretty sweet.
Or what about Hawaii? I wouldn't mind traveling to Hawaii in December for a title game.
My guess for host, at early on, is probably Glendale, if only because they have the ritziest digs of any town in the conference. It won't be an unfair advantage either, because Lord knows ASU ain't headed to no Pac-12 (My guess? They'll change just like they did when the Arizona schools joined) Title game ANY time soon.
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