Dynasty draft help: Move up or Trade down??

[lacunacoiler]

12 team ppr-idp dynasty league... 5th year

start 2rb, 2wr, 1 wr/rb, 1qb, 1te, 1k, 1dl, 2db, 2lb, 2dp, 11bench
max increased to: 5qb, 8rb, 8wr, 5te, 3k, 3de, 3dt, 5lb, 4cb, 4s.. last year it was: 4qb, 5rb, wr, 4te

standard espn scoring with fractional scoring, 0.5 per rec, 0.75 per solo tackle, 0.25 per ast tackle, 3 per sack, 2 per int, 2.2 per pass def, rest of idp cats are default scoring..


qb= Donovan Mcnabb, Kevin Kolb, Joe Flacco, Matt Leinart
rb= Steve Slaton, Arian Foster, Marshawn Lynch, Thomas Jones, Clinton Portis
wr= Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Sidney Rice
te= Vernon Davis, Jermichael Finley, Jason Witten
k= Garett Hartley
dl= Julius Peppers, Will Smith, John Abraham
lb= Ray Lewis, DeMeco Ryans, Jon Beason, Elvis Dumervil, Brian Cushing
db= Darren Sharper, Leon Hall, Terrence Newman, Yeremiah Bell



As you can see, rb's are my biggest weakness.. I traded LT 3 years ago(while he is still in his prime) for 5 future 1st round picks.. Used 2 of it so far...
Basically i still made the playoffs last year even with a crappy rb core, & i was the 6th seed.. My wr's & idp's bailed me out for the most of the season.. But the glaring weakness at rb definitely killed me in the playoffs when i got eliminated in the 1st round by just 10 pts... As you can see i have a promising team & i'm just one player away from becoming the champ...

So this year i got 6th overall pick based from the order of finish...
At that spot i doubt i would get a good rb that can immediately help me out, which is why i'm wondering to whether trade down or to trade up...
I know the guy with the 1st overall is not going to trade that pick away ever, unless he gets a really great offer... So we can take out Matthews out of the rankings.. I'm pretty sure Best, Spiller, & Bryant will round out the top 4 picks, and the 5th guy selecting is leaning towards Clausen or Bradford to protect his old qb roster(he got Favre, Kurt Warner, Jason Campbell, Eli Manning)...


So here are my questions:
1) If i would to stick with my spot & Ben Tate falls down to me at that spot, would you guys recommend to me drafting him to handcuff foster/slaton??

2) If Ben Tate is not a good rb choice, which rb aside from Best, Spiller, & Matthews should i draft??

3) And would you guys consider trading away 3 future 1st round picks(or even more than 3 future 1st) to move to 2nd right now??? Guy in 1st is still not satisfied with my 3 future 1st offers...

4) And if i did move to 2nd, which rb would you guys prefer: Jahvid Best or CJ Spiller??
I would prefer finding a way to move to 2nd overall without giving up on any of my wr's or my lb's.. It is abit difficult in this league to trade defensive players for offensive players, unless elite lb's are included.. Best is in a better offensive team, but he got a history of injuries.. While Spiller is the better talent, but in a bad offensive team with a rb competition to play with..

5) Since LS2throwed mentioned in his http://www.fantasyfootballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=466939that he didn't liked this year's rb, im thinking of trading my 6th overall away & targeting Matt Forte... So would you guys consider 6th overall this year for Forte or i would need to add another draft pick???
i would prefer trading for Forte without trading away any of my wr's or lb's.. It is abit difficult in this league to trade defensive players for offensive players, unless elite lb's are included

6) And any rb's/wr's i should target that are primed for a breakout or bounceback season??


any insights will be greatly appreciated...

[Indibuck]

I think there is a definitive drop-off after Matthews, Bryant, Spiller, and Best. In terms of talent and in terms of opportunity, this was a weak class for rookie RBs.

If you can get Forte for the 1.6 rookie pick in a .5 PPR league, I would do that in a heartbeat. You badly need the RB help.

You have a fantastic WR and TE corps -- but it's a luxury you can't afford with your RBs being so weak. You need to move one of those guys (I think you could get great value for Sidney Rice and/or Finley -- 2 hot names this offseason) and maybe that 1.6 rookie pick for a legit RB.

[Indibuck]

Also -- don't be shortsighted on those #1 picks that you got for trading away LT in his prime. Remember -- in most other years you could get a good rookie with the 1.6 pick -- just not this year.

Good luck.

[lacunacoiler]

I think there is a definitive drop-off after Matthews, Bryant, Spiller, and Best. In terms of talent and in terms of opportunity, this was a weak class for rookie RBs.

If you can get Forte for the 1.6 rookie pick in a .5 PPR league, I would do that in a heartbeat. You badly need the RB help.

You have a fantastic WR and TE corps -- but it's a luxury you can't afford with your RBs being so weak. You need to move one of those guys (I think you could get great value for Sidney Rice and/or Finley -- 2 hot names this offseason) and maybe that 1.6 rookie pick for a legit RB.

k thnx for your help though... i guess my decision will be to trade down by trading that pick away for maybe forte or someone else...


so if you were the forte owner, would you accept the 6th overall pick alone as a fair value???
and which draft pick for this year do you think is a fair value for matt forte??/

[Indibuck]

I think there is a definitive drop-off after Matthews, Bryant, Spiller, and Best. In terms of talent and in terms of opportunity, this was a weak class for rookie RBs.

If you can get Forte for the 1.6 rookie pick in a .5 PPR league, I would do that in a heartbeat. You badly need the RB help.

You have a fantastic WR and TE corps -- but it's a luxury you can't afford with your RBs being so weak. You need to move one of those guys (I think you could get great value for Sidney Rice and/or Finley -- 2 hot names this offseason) and maybe that 1.6 rookie pick for a legit RB.

k thnx for your help though... i guess my decision will be to trade down by trading that pick away for maybe forte or someone else...


so if you were the forte owner, would you accept the 6th overall pick alone as a fair value???
and which draft pick for this year do you think is a fair value for matt forte??/

If I were the Forte owner, I wouldn't touch that deal (for the reasons I mentioned before) -- but it's a good starting point.

[lacunacoiler]

I think there is a definitive drop-off after Matthews, Bryant, Spiller, and Best. In terms of talent and in terms of opportunity, this was a weak class for rookie RBs.

If you can get Forte for the 1.6 rookie pick in a .5 PPR league, I would do that in a heartbeat. You badly need the RB help.

You have a fantastic WR and TE corps -- but it's a luxury you can't afford with your RBs being so weak. You need to move one of those guys (I think you could get great value for Sidney Rice and/or Finley -- 2 hot names this offseason) and maybe that 1.6 rookie pick for a legit RB.

k thnx for your help though... i guess my decision will be to trade down by trading that pick away for maybe forte or someone else...


so if you were the forte owner, would you accept the 6th overall pick alone as a fair value???
and which draft pick for this year do you think is a fair value for matt forte??/

If I were the Forte owner, I wouldn't touch that deal (for the reasons I mentioned before) -- but it's a good starting point.

so how about the 4th overall pick, if you were me would you consider trading it away or pray that either Spiller or Best falls to that spot??

If you were the Forte owner, would you consider the 4th overall straight up or i would need to add another draft pick??

And if i decided to just trade away the 4th overall for just future draft picks, do you think it is a good value for next year's 1st round pick and this year's 5th round pick??
we do 5 rounds, & 5th round is where we draft the non-rookies, and all non-snake.. Felix Jones & Lendale White were dropped at the end of last season, which is why im wondering if i need to get one of the top 5 picks in 5th round..


i didn't mentioned my 4th overall(from the LT trade) coz i want to know the value of my current 6th overall, and im not yet ready to give away that pick... since you mentioned that 6th overall is not good enough for a Forte, i guess i got no choice but to give it up away..

[TruNinerFan]

I can't add much because I agree with everything Indibuck said. I would easily trade the #6 pick for a RB like Forte. I see a monster drop off after Spiller, Matthews, Dez and Best. I would even look to deal the 6th pick for a first next year. Offer it to one of the weaker teams.

Also, you really need to trade one of those Te's. It's crazy to have 2 stud Te's sitting on your bench every week. There has to be a team weak at TE.

[lacunacoiler]

I think there is a definitive drop-off after Matthews, Bryant, Spiller, and Best. In terms of talent and in terms of opportunity, this was a weak class for rookie RBs.

If you can get Forte for the 1.6 rookie pick in a .5 PPR league, I would do that in a heartbeat. You badly need the RB help.

You have a fantastic WR and TE corps -- but it's a luxury you can't afford with your RBs being so weak. You need to move one of those guys (I think you could get great value for Sidney Rice and/or Finley -- 2 hot names this offseason) and maybe that 1.6 rookie pick for a legit RB.

k thnx for your help though... i guess my decision will be to trade down by trading that pick away for maybe forte or someone else...


so if you were the forte owner, would you accept the 6th overall pick alone as a fair value???
and which draft pick for this year do you think is a fair value for matt forte??/

If I were the Forte owner, I wouldn't touch that deal (for the reasons I mentioned before) -- but it's a good starting point.

I can't add much because I agree with everything Indibuck said. I would easily trade the #6 pick for a RB like Forte. I see a monster drop off after Spiller, Matthews, Dez and Best. I would even look to deal the 6th pick for a first next year. Offer it to one of the weaker teams.

Also, you really need to trade one of those Te's. It's crazy to have 2 stud Te's sitting on your bench every week. There has to be a team weak at TE.

how about 3 future 1st round picks, is it enough fo Forte or abit too much??? it will be the 2012,2013,2014 1st round pikcs....


and if you were the Forte owner, are those 3 1st rounds a fair value or a huge steal???

[Indibuck]

k thnx for your help though... i guess my decision will be to trade down by trading that pick away for maybe forte or someone else...


so if you were the forte owner, would you accept the 6th overall pick alone as a fair value???
and which draft pick for this year do you think is a fair value for matt forte??/

If I were the Forte owner, I wouldn't touch that deal (for the reasons I mentioned before) -- but it's a good starting point.

I can't add much because I agree with everything Indibuck said. I would easily trade the #6 pick for a RB like Forte. I see a monster drop off after Spiller, Matthews, Dez and Best. I would even look to deal the 6th pick for a first next year. Offer it to one of the weaker teams.

Also, you really need to trade one of those Te's. It's crazy to have 2 stud Te's sitting on your bench every week. There has to be a team weak at TE.

how about 3 future 1st round picks, is it enough fo Forte or abit too much??? it will be the 2012,2013,2014 1st round pikcs....


and if you were the Forte owner, are those 3 1st rounds a fair value or a huge steal???

It's way too much for Forte.

My advice -- shop Vernon Davis and that 1.6 pick for a RB that you can just plug right in to your lineup. Understand that you will probably have to come up off that 1.4 pick as well in order to get a better RB (or maybe one of those WRs instead).... but with a weak 2010 class, this is the year to pull the trigger.

You really need the RB help to compete IMHO.