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Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Poll ended at Sun May 23, 2010 7:57 pm

RB Montario Hardesty, Cleveland Browns
7
35%
WR Golden Tate, Seattle Seahawks
1
5%
QB Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
7
35%
WR Arrelious Benn, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4
20%
Other (please explain)
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby The Lung » Wed May 19, 2010 7:57 pm

Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts? You are voting on who will have the best fantasy football production in the NFL over the next 4 or 5 years with the team on which the player was just drafted, NOT who will have the best year in 2010. Assume standard scoring (1 pt. per 10 yards rushing / receiving, and no PPR) Also please assume that you have a balanced roster and don't have a great specific need for a QB, WR, etc.

Feel free to discuss the pros and cons of these players - this could be helpful for some and generate some good discussion. If you'd like to vote for a player NOT on this list, then please vote "other" and make a post to discuss the player. This will serve as a write-in vote for that player. ;-D

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1.02 RB Jahvid Best, Detroit Lions
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby bungle613 » Wed May 19, 2010 9:01 pm

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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby Kareighuis » Wed May 19, 2010 10:56 pm

Went with Hardesty. All the rest of the RBs are handcuffs or longshots. Still have questions about Bradford, and the WRs have quality questions about their QBs and instability in their coaching staff (recent and/or anticipated).
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby LS2throwed » Wed May 19, 2010 10:57 pm

Montario Hardesty, no way he should go any further then this point, people are sleeping on him, and while Cleveland is still rebuilding that offensive line is damn good, and was good enough for Jerome Harrison to go nuts numerous times.


Way too early for Sam Bradford, guys like Stafford/Sanchez weren't going until late 1st/early 2nd and the situation for Bradford is alot worse. He's going to get thrown to the wolves year one, and is anyone confident that he can take the type of hits Stafford manned up and took last season? I'm not. He has shown he can't take a hit, and while he may be 100% the right thing would be to sit him this year to get on an NFL training program for a year, but now he has no WR's or TE's to throw to and a suspect line, and one more serious injury to his throwing shoulder and his career is wrecked, not the risk I want this soon.
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby Wenchtamer » Thu May 20, 2010 12:22 am

I went with Bradford but I think it's a coinflip with Hardesty.

Hardesty is the last of the tier 2 backs, and like ls2 said, every RB after him is weak. But he also has competition, is on a team that is weak at WR, QB, TE, and all over the defense. On top of that he has questionable NFL level talent.

Bradford has the talent. He has injury concerns and concerns about his team but his long-term potential is undeniable. I think it just gets to the point where the top QB looks better than the second-tier back.

This is where team needs come into play. But from a talent standpoint I think Bradford has to go by this pick.
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby Kareighuis » Thu May 20, 2010 8:20 am

Wenchtamer wrote:I went with Bradford but I think it's a coinflip with Hardesty.

Hardesty is the last of the tier 2 backs, and like ls2 said, every RB after him is weak. But he also has competition, is on a team that is weak at WR, QB, TE, and all over the defense. On top of that he has questionable NFL level talent.

Bradford has the talent. He has injury concerns and concerns about his team but his long-term potential is undeniable. I think it just gets to the point where the top QB looks better than the second-tier back.

This is where team needs come into play. But from a talent standpoint I think Bradford has to go by this pick.


I think it comes down to Bradford or Hardesty. Cle does have talent issues throughout it's roster and Bradford has a well-documented injury history. With Holmgren calling the shots, I'm willing to bet the first issue will be at least partly rectified, while I have nothing to base a belief that Bradford's injury issues will magically disappear by joining the NFL other than hope.
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby Guru13 » Thu May 20, 2010 11:39 am

LS2throwed wrote:Montario Hardesty, no way he should go any further then this point, people are sleeping on him, and while Cleveland is still rebuilding that offensive line is damn good, and was good enough for Jerome Harrison to go nuts numerous times.


Way too early for Sam Bradford, guys like Stafford/Sanchez weren't going until late 1st/early 2nd and the situation for Bradford is alot worse. He's going to get thrown to the wolves year one, and is anyone confident that he can take the type of hits Stafford manned up and took last season? I'm not. He has shown he can't take a hit, and while he may be 100% the right thing would be to sit him this year to get on an NFL training program for a year, but now he has no WR's or TE's to throw to and a suspect line, and one more serious injury to his throwing shoulder and his career is wrecked, not the risk I want this soon.

You might be surprised to see how 'suspect' the Rams' line is. Very underrated. It's certainly not the best in the league, but it's much improved over what Bulger was dealing with the last few years.
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby moochman » Thu May 20, 2010 4:15 pm

Liked Bradford at 6, would have taken him at 5, and if my team was thin at QB I take him with #4. So I'll go with him here. He has the potential to grow into a fantasy friendly position in St Louis. No brainer.
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby The Lung » Sat May 22, 2010 4:09 pm

This one is a dead heat but I'm surprised there's not more commentary. :-?
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Re: Who is the #7 pick in dynasty league rookie drafts?

Postby bazzy_51 » Sat May 22, 2010 5:33 pm

This one is just for Joe, and you can link this up like you did with my last post if you would like... ;-)

I went with Benn. This kid is so underrated for two reasons. One-the college stats he produced, so lets look a little further into that. Lets start off by stating the talent that was surrounding him at WR and TE. WR Core consisted of WR1-Benn WR2-Jarred Fayson WR3-a rotating door. Fayson was a Florida transfer who is undersized at 6ft even and 200lbs soaking wet, he played a few games and had a few catches, but can say nothing more about him other then rival.com gave him 5 stars for some ungodly reason. Fayson is a below average WR at best. So lets look at the other options that stepped up a bit early-mid season; Chris Duvalt, again another receiver who was used very sparingly, so never stuck; lets just make this as short and simple as possible: aside from Benn the next top 4 "WR labeled" players combined for 884yd on only 65rec (Benn had 38rec on his own, so average that out thats 16rec for 220 per receiver after Benn). Tight End help? Lol, ya right. Big Ole' Jeff Cumberland (6'5" 260lb) did go for 1001yd, over FOUR years. His most productive year he had 20rec, other wise not another year over 16. That was out of their TE1. Another sad point(s)? Their 5th best receiver was their RB, their 7th best a backup RB and best yet Eddie McGee (backup QB) only had 100 less receiving yards then their WR3 on the year last year.

Then you factor in the horrid QB option (who was supposed to be the next big thing) in Juice Williams, who would rather run the ball then throw it. He has a 2-year completion % of 57.6, rushed the ball only 84 fewer times (143 rush att) then he did then he did throwing the ball (227 pash att), that means that Benn caught 31% of Juice's completions. Juice looked like he hit the sophmore wall last year as his freshman year he connected 67 times for 1055yd with Benn.

So with that background its onto why Benn deserves to 'go this high' right? So Freeman is still also a raw QB, but does have a year of experience under his belt, and it only helps Benn with the QB/WR situation having a young guy that he won't have to win over to get balls thrown his way, like he may if he were going to a team with a vet QB and vet receivers that he has a connection with. Arrelious I really think has the 2nd best physical WR attributes in this draft, and they are stagering. He is still raw in some areas, but his body control is amazing and with his size he already had the upper hand anyways, his release off the line is also top notch--he has quick feet and I don't remember too many times seeing him jammed at the line, his field vision is about average but he makes up for that with his great ability to break tackles with his power and out do those would be tacklers with his speed and finally one of the biggest, and what will get him out on the field as soon as week 1 is his above average blocking ability. His toughness is nothing to shake a stick at, hes never been afraid to run routes over the middle and the toughness is evident in going up strong for the ball while taking the heavy hit. Yes he has some flaws, but what rookie doesn’t? He needs some work on his hands with the easy catches (which is more so just a lack of focus, cuz he can make any hard catch look easy), bailing a QB out (meaning he has a tendency to stop on a play when the QB is scrambling, instead of coming back to help out) and learning how to loosen up his hips to make those jabs and cut backs.

Overall I like Bryant, but I actually think that Benn has the WR ability to outdo him, this year and in the future. Benn is a stellar athlete and physical attributes are just something most receivers don’t have. Also Kellen Winslow and Michael Clayton can do nothing but help this young guy along the way. Tampa has far more weapons than any team that Arrelious has ever played on has had, so I’m geared up to see what this prospect can do. Quote it, don’t sleep on this guy!
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