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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby flotsamnjetsam » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:04 pm

mattb47 wrote:McClain was probably the other player I was really seriously considering there at that pick but I think that the Raiders moving to a 3-4 this year and that sometimes 3-4 ILBs can be somewhat inconsistent fantasy wise is what ended up moving me away from him and taking Thomas who fell pretty far from where he has normally gone.



After you took Thomas at 1.05 in NFL's Finest, I was 99% sure that's who you were going to pick after he slid to you. I haven't seen M.Williams go before Thomas and/or Benn, so I'm still interested to hear what water boy likes about him. ;-D
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby flotsamnjetsam » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:13 pm

Crimedogg32 wrote:2.05 Julian Edelman - WR, NE



This just reminded me that I forgot to remind everyone before the draft that FA's are available in our rookie draft. :-/

I'm going to edit the titles of the 6 draft threads. Hopefully everyone knew since we have 11 of 12 owners from last year (sorry Matt!). My apologies again. I usually remember to mention it before the draft & I usually make the draft threads read what they're going to read now. :-/ ;-D
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby Kilroy » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:51 pm

mattb47 wrote:McClain was probably the other player I was really seriously considering there at that pick but I think that the Raiders moving to a 3-4 this year and that sometimes 3-4 ILBs can be somewhat inconsistent fantasy wise is what ended up moving me away from him and taking Thomas who fell pretty far from where he has normally gone.


If I wasn't already loaded at LB I'd have taken him, and still nearly did. There are plenty of 3-4 WILB that have all but put to rest the whole "3-4" myth. Hell, half my Top 12 Dynasty LBs are 3-4 WILB, including IDP numero uno hisself (and no, I'm not presuming to compare McClain to Willis).

Add in that he'll see a jillion tackle opps (approximately) playing 3 downs on that defense and I can see him finishing Top 20 fairly easily, and LB1 numbers (Top 12) wouldn't shock me a bit. Like the pick a lot, especially in that spot.

Thought about Thomas too, but between McEgo and TebowMania that team freaks me out. :-o
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby mattb47 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:51 pm

Kilroy wrote:
mattb47 wrote:McClain was probably the other player I was really seriously considering there at that pick but I think that the Raiders moving to a 3-4 this year and that sometimes 3-4 ILBs can be somewhat inconsistent fantasy wise is what ended up moving me away from him and taking Thomas who fell pretty far from where he has normally gone.


If I wasn't already loaded at LB I'd have taken him, and still nearly did. There are plenty of 3-4 WILB that have all but put to rest the whole "3-4" myth. Hell, half my Top 12 Dynasty LBs are 3-4 WILB, including IDP numero uno hisself (and no, I'm not presuming to compare McClain to Willis).

Add in that he'll see a jillion tackle opps (approximately) playing 3 downs on that defense and I can see him finishing Top 20 fairly easily, and LB1 numbers (Top 12) wouldn't shock me a bit. Like the pick a lot, especially in that spot.

Thought about Thomas too, but between McEgo and TebowMania that team freaks me out. :-o


Yea, there are plenty of productive ones but there are also a whole bunch that don't quite fit as well in the 3-4 ILB spot as far as being real playmaking tacklers. I love McClain and think he'll be a great NFL player, but in the end I opted to go with the WR at my spot instead of taking McClain there. He could be a top IDP or he could even just be a great NFL player who doesn't quite translate into consistent fantasy production which does happen as well.

I'm not a huge Thomas guy either, I really took him in the other league at #5 because of need moreso than anything but here he had fallen so far that I couldn't pass him up with me needing a bit of WR depth and the fact that he'll almost certainly be getting plenty of playing time from the start.
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby Kilroy » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:48 am

mattb47 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
mattb47 wrote:McClain was probably the other player I was really seriously considering there at that pick but I think that the Raiders moving to a 3-4 this year and that sometimes 3-4 ILBs can be somewhat inconsistent fantasy wise is what ended up moving me away from him and taking Thomas who fell pretty far from where he has normally gone.


If I wasn't already loaded at LB I'd have taken him, and still nearly did. There are plenty of 3-4 WILB that have all but put to rest the whole "3-4" myth. Hell, half my Top 12 Dynasty LBs are 3-4 WILB, including IDP numero uno hisself (and no, I'm not presuming to compare McClain to Willis).

Add in that he'll see a jillion tackle opps (approximately) playing 3 downs on that defense and I can see him finishing Top 20 fairly easily, and LB1 numbers (Top 12) wouldn't shock me a bit. Like the pick a lot, especially in that spot.

Thought about Thomas too, but between McEgo and TebowMania that team freaks me out. :-o


Yea, there are plenty of productive ones but there are also a whole bunch that don't quite fit as well in the 3-4 ILB spot as far as being real playmaking tacklers. I love McClain and think he'll be a great NFL player, but in the end I opted to go with the WR at my spot instead of taking McClain there. He could be a top IDP or he could even just be a great NFL player who doesn't quite translate into consistent fantasy production which does happen as well.

I'm not a huge Thomas guy either, I really took him in the other league at #5 because of need moreso than anything but here he had fallen so far that I couldn't pass him up with me needing a bit of WR depth and the fact that he'll almost certainly be getting plenty of playing time from the start.


There are so-so 4-3 MLB as well...my point, and I'd like to stress it if only because I've become something of an IDP zealot (It's like my Backaholica only with more hittin'), is that scheme seems to have become a bit less of a bugaboo...3-4, 4-3, hybrid, whatever. Just tell me he's gonna be on the field for most of the snaps on a so-so (on a good day) defense (as Rolando will) and I'm a buyer.

Like Thomas too, the Denver heebies aside. I have an old team (on offense) getting older with a potential hole at RB, so I plugged with a guy whose 2010 upside is likely better than his 2012's. I'm the Dan Snyder of Dynasty...tomorrow can kiss my a**.

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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby bungle613 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:17 am

Kilroy wrote:Fixing to win today. B-)


Sorry to disappoint ya Kilroy ;-)
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby Kilroy » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:53 am

bungle613 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Fixing to win today. B-)


Sorry to disappoint ya Kilroy ;-)


Eh, just trade me a WR for 10 cents on the dollar and we'll call it even. :-B

Comin' to take back my title jerkhead. B-) :-D
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby bungle613 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:55 am

Kilroy wrote:
bungle613 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Fixing to win today. B-)


Sorry to disappoint ya Kilroy ;-)


Eh, just trade me a WR for 10 cents on the dollar and we'll call it even. :-B

Comin' to take back my title jerkhead. B-) :-D


I had to handicap myself some way last year and it looked like you could use the help so threw you a bone.

jerkhead!!! nice :-b :-b :-b
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby moochman » Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:47 pm

mattb47 wrote:needing a bit of WR depth and the fact that he'll almost certainly be getting plenty of playing time from the start.


That pretty much 'splains my drafting of Golden Tate. I need some WR explosiveness, and while his top end may be limited, I think the Maple Bar man should see a lots of passes and be a startable player by midseason.
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Re: Rookie Draft Commentary (Plus Offseason & Season Commentary)

Postby mattb47 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:47 pm

moochman wrote:
mattb47 wrote:needing a bit of WR depth and the fact that he'll almost certainly be getting plenty of playing time from the start.


That pretty much 'splains my drafting of Golden Tate. I need some WR explosiveness, and while his top end may be limited, I think the Maple Bar man should see a lots of passes and be a startable player by midseason.


I actually do like Golden Tate a good amount...people seemed to like to focus on the measurables the guy didn't have but he was just a straight up good football player. Had the opportunity to see him play in person a couple times and he may not be the biggest or fastest, but he's a playmaker and I do think it will continue at the next level.
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