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Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby Cowboys 4 life » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:27 am

Would you prefer Housh or Breatson in a Dynasty PPR?
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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby LS2throwed » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:44 am

Breaston 100 times out of 100.


Probably if it was redraft also, but dynasty it makes it very easy. Breaston has alot of upside to him, he's still very young and has alot of room to grow. Housh last season was pretty sorry, and longterm he offers nothing. This is probably his last year he starts anywhere, and even if he finishes the season as a starter there isn't much upside to him at all.


Last year he went for 900/3 which is pretty terrible, him being older and slower doesn't make me think you'd get much more then that. At best, he's a bye week filler as a WR 5 when you don't have better options, and Breaston at beast could end up being a WR2/3 with potential to be alot more longterm. I'd take alot of younger guys over Housh in Dynasty, hell I'd easily take Deon Butler over Housh in dynasty as crazy as it may sound, just give me the young guy with the potential to give me something longterm.
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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby TruNinerFan » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:48 am

I would much rather have Breaston and it's not even close for me.

Housh clearly showed last year that he is on the downside of his career. Breaston has a ton of upside. He looked pretty good last year and now with Boldin out of the picture he will get a chance to shine. He should see a lot of single coverage with Fitz drawing most of the attention. I know that Housh has the bigger name, but Breaston is the better player at this point of their careers.
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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby Cowboys 4 life » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:51 am

Thanks gents. Needed someone to confirm my original thoughts and you both did. I'm alot higher on Breaston to but thought I might be missing something. Feedback left

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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby Indibuck » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:15 pm

TruNinerFan wrote:I would much rather have Breaston and it's not even close for me.

Housh clearly showed last year that he is on the downside of his career. Breaston has a ton of upside. He looked pretty good last year and now with Boldin out of the picture he will get a chance to shine. He should see a lot of single coverage with Fitz drawing most of the attention. I know that Housh has the bigger name, but Breaston is the better player at this point of their careers.


I agree with the above posters because it's a dynasty league.


But in redrafts, I think their values are a lot closer than the other opinions.



Housh 2009 stats: 79/911/3. This was his first year in SEA, playing with a QB that was rarely healthy, a non-existent running game, and no true WR2. SEA has made upgrades at RB, QB (with the signing of Whitehurst), and OL. They also bring in coach Pete Carroll, whose USC offenses liked to feature bigger WRs... Housh has pretty good size, and I think fits into what Carroll will try to being to the table.

While Housh's ceiling is limited because of the poor SEA offense, I think last year's numbers are pretty close to what his floor is for 2010.


Breaston 2009 stats: 55/712/3. That's a 2.5 point advantage per week for the WR from SEA in 2009.

So you're saying, well Boldin's gone, he should have a chance to shine with single coverage. Boldin posted 84/1024/4. That was with Warner at QB and a solid 3rd WR in Breaston. Now you have Leinart and a weaker 3rd WR, plus AZ is going to run more.

There's also been speculation that Early Doucet, not Breaston, will play the Boldin role. That would keep Breaston in the slot, where he is better suited anyways IMHO... but it would also figure to limit his targets.

But let's assume Breaston does indeed win the #2 job. Because Breaston is not as talented as Boldin, let's take the 2009 numbers of Breaston and Boldin and divide by 2.... that comes out to a projection of 70/918/4. I think that's a pretty good number, especially considering AZ plans to run the ball more.

So even if you take Housh's floor numbers, he still puts up slightly better numbers than I am projecting for Breaston.


For as much hate that Housh gets, especially in these forums, I think he is a nice value pick for seasonal PPR leagues.
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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby snixx79 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:58 pm

Breaston in a dynasty hands down. I would agree its much closer in seasonal drafts, but the dynasty format makes it a no brainer.

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Re: Housh or Breaston PPR

Postby LS2throwed » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:08 am

Indibuck wrote:
TruNinerFan wrote:I would much rather have Breaston and it's not even close for me.

Housh clearly showed last year that he is on the downside of his career. Breaston has a ton of upside. He looked pretty good last year and now with Boldin out of the picture he will get a chance to shine. He should see a lot of single coverage with Fitz drawing most of the attention. I know that Housh has the bigger name, but Breaston is the better player at this point of their careers.


I agree with the above posters because it's a dynasty league.


But in redrafts, I think their values are a lot closer than the other opinions.



Housh 2009 stats: 79/911/3. This was his first year in SEA, playing with a QB that was rarely healthy, a non-existent running game, and no true WR2. SEA has made upgrades at RB, QB (with the signing of Whitehurst), and OL. They also bring in coach Pete Carroll, whose USC offenses liked to feature bigger WRs... Housh has pretty good size, and I think fits into what Carroll will try to being to the table.

While Housh's ceiling is limited because of the poor SEA offense, I think last year's numbers are pretty close to what his floor is for 2010.


Breaston 2009 stats: 55/712/3. That's a 2.5 point advantage per week for the WR from SEA in 2009.

So you're saying, well Boldin's gone, he should have a chance to shine with single coverage. Boldin posted 84/1024/4. That was with Warner at QB and a solid 3rd WR in Breaston. Now you have Leinart and a weaker 3rd WR, plus AZ is going to run more.

There's also been speculation that Early Doucet, not Breaston, will play the Boldin role. That would keep Breaston in the slot, where he is better suited anyways IMHO... but it would also figure to limit his targets.

But let's assume Breaston does indeed win the #2 job. Because Breaston is not as talented as Boldin, let's take the 2009 numbers of Breaston and Boldin and divide by 2.... that comes out to a projection of 70/918/4. I think that's a pretty good number, especially considering AZ plans to run the ball more.

So even if you take Housh's floor numbers, he still puts up slightly better numbers than I am projecting for Breaston.


For as much hate that Housh gets, especially in these forums, I think he is a nice value pick for seasonal PPR leagues.




Maybe I'm missing something, but what has Seattle done to improve or upgrade their RB or QB situation? They didn't even draft a RB, so I'm confused here.


Your calling Whitehurst an upgrade also? He's never thrown a real NFL pass, while they gave up a high pick for him, it's way off base calling him an upgrade of any sorts. They still don't have a QB who can stay healthy, and will still have a non existant running game. Tate may be the WR2 they were lacking, or he could turn into the go to guy and limit Housh' snaps.


My point is that everything you just listed that made Housh undesireable last year, is still evident this year. So why the hope for optimism?


I don't think Housh gets hate, there just isn't much to like. And while Breaston has some uncertainty surrounding him, he's a young player who isn't as good as he'll get, and I think the #2 WR in Arizona will still be a nice fantasy assett even if they do run the ball more. I don't see Housh more then a bye week fill in no matter what format your in, and if your going for that, why not go for the high upside guy? Housh is on the decline, it was very evident last year, while his situation was bad he wasn't good at all and showed no explosion, it's not going to improve by getting a year older. I think he's close to a wasted pick and I'd rather gamble on a high upside guy like Breaston who can explode for big games or at least big plays.
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