Metroid wrote: Reign of Fire was his best role?!?! Seriously? That movie was a bigger turd than Leo's Critters 3. That was hardly Bale's best performance.
I'd forgotten all about Critters 3. That still doesn't bring Leo down enough to be in the same arena. I'd have them ranked closer if not for roles like Gangs of New York and The Departed where Leo dropped his wuss persona for more of a bad@$$ role.
I have to add something about Bale, who I personally don't have a problem with. Liked him in American Psycho and The Machinist. The transformation he made from The Machinist to Batman was incredible. How skinny and malnourished he was in The Machinist, then coming out ripped in Batman Begins in under a year was amazing. Not sure how much of that was camerawork, but he looked absolutely sick in The Machinist. DiCaprio is definitely the better actor, in my opinion, but I really respect Bale's dedication between those 2 roles.
lmcjaho wrote:Pretty sure BATMAN was was bigger blockbuster than Titanic.
How so? Without looking it up on IMDB, I would presume that Titanic made a lot more money than Batman. I don't think you're talking about dollars earned, so where are you coming from with this?
Rank Title Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year^ 1 Avatar Fox $2,731.1 $749.7 27.5% $1,981.3 72.5% 2009 2 Titanic Par. $1,843.2 $600.8 32.6% $1,242.4 67.4% 1997 3 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003 4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $1,066.2 $423.3 39.7% $642.9 60.3% 2006 5 Alice in Wonderland (2010) BV $1,024.3 $334.2 32.6% $690.1 67.4% 2010 6 The Dark Knight WB $1,001.9 $533.3 53.2% $468.6 46.8% 2008 7 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.7 $317.6 32.6% $657.2 67.4% 2001 8 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $961.0 $309.4 32.2% $651.6 67.8% 2007 9 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $938.2 $292.0 31.1% $646.2 68.9% 2007 10 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $934.0 $302.0 32.3% $632.0 67.7% 2009
Yeah, to me you look at this list - 7 of these movies were either part of a trilogy or the Harry Potter saga. Only Avatar, Titanic and Alice are stand alone movies that hit "epic" proportions. Also, every other movie on this list was made in the last 9 years. Titanic held the top spot for 12.
Plus, Leo is a clear star in Titanic. Ledger had easily the best performance in the Batman movies, and you could make an argument that Liam Neeson also puts on a better performance (although far less screen time) than Bale in Begins. Not to mention the ridiculous talent of the supporting cast in Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine. Who did Leo have other than Kate? Billy Zane and Victor Garber?
So, yes, all things considered I believe Leo and Titanic is the clear winner in that head-to-head blockbuster matchup.
knapplc wrote: How so? Without looking it up on IMDB, I would presume that Titanic made a lot more money than Batman. I don't think you're talking about dollars earned, so where are you coming from with this?
Rank Title Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year^ 1 Avatar Fox $2,731.1 $749.7 27.5% $1,981.3 72.5% 2009 2 Titanic Par. $1,843.2 $600.8 32.6% $1,242.4 67.4% 1997 3 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003 4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $1,066.2 $423.3 39.7% $642.9 60.3% 2006 5 Alice in Wonderland (2010) BV $1,024.3 $334.2 32.6% $690.1 67.4% 2010 6 The Dark Knight WB $1,001.9 $533.3 53.2% $468.6 46.8% 2008 7 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.7 $317.6 32.6% $657.2 67.4% 2001 8 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $961.0 $309.4 32.2% $651.6 67.8% 2007 9 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $938.2 $292.0 31.1% $646.2 68.9% 2007 10 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $934.0 $302.0 32.3% $632.0 67.7% 2009
Yeah, to me you look at this list - 7 of these movies were either part of a trilogy or the Harry Potter saga. Only Avatar, Titanic and Alice are stand alone movies that hit "epic" proportions. Also, every other movie on this list was made in the last 9 years. Titanic held the top spot for 12.
Plus, Leo is a clear star in Titanic. Ledger had easily the best performance in the Batman movies, and you could make an argument that Liam Neeson also puts on a better performance (although far less screen time) than Bale in Begins. Not to mention the ridiculous talent of the supporting cast in Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine. Who did Leo have other than Kate? Billy Zane and Victor Garber?
So, yes, all things considered I believe Leo and Titanic is the clear winner in that head-to-head blockbuster matchup.
Alice surprised me but it has to be due to the 3D surcharge...probably why Avatar was able to beat Titanic i really wish they'd rank these things by tickets sold so you can compare era's (it's probably done somewhere and i'm just too lazy to look, but i wish it was the standard instead of $$$)
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Metroid wrote:Reign of Fire was his best role?!?! Seriously? That movie was a bigger turd than Leo's Critters 3. That was hardly Bale's best performance.
I'd say his best performance to date was in American Psycho.
My comment about Reign of Firewas meant to show how little I give a crap about the definition of "best actor" - as we've discussed before the sarcasm side of things doesn't always translate over to message boards
That being said - I liked Reign of Fire and it was one of the first movies I ever bought when I upgraded to DVD from VHS.
Metroid wrote:Reign of Fire was his best role?!?! Seriously? That movie was a bigger turd than Leo's Critters 3. That was hardly Bale's best performance.
I'd say his best performance to date was in American Psycho.
My comment about Reign of Firewas meant to show how little I give a crap about the definition of "best actor" - as we've discussed before the sarcasm side of things doesn't always translate over to message boards
That being said - I liked Reign of Fire and it was one of the first movies I ever bought when I upgraded to DVD from VHS.
Aww man! I'm sorry to hear you're still watching it on DVD. Let me help a brother out!
Metroid wrote:Reign of Fire was his best role?!?! Seriously? That movie was a bigger turd than Leo's Critters 3. That was hardly Bale's best performance.
I'd say his best performance to date was in American Psycho.
My comment about Reign of Firewas meant to show how little I give a crap about the definition of "best actor" - as we've discussed before the sarcasm side of things doesn't always translate over to message boards
That being said - I liked Reign of Fire and it was one of the first movies I ever bought when I upgraded to DVD from VHS.