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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby jhoefen » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:23 pm

i think it all depends on the scoring. My main league is Non-PPR, however, there is bonuses for various things that make it more strategic (IMO) than ppr. For example, bonuses for wr/rb going over 100 yrds, TE's going over 50 yrds, TD's over 20 yrds and 40 yrds. QB bonus for every 100 yrds, kickers for field goals over 50 yrds, ect. This allows for different strategies, some of which i've seen work, some not so much, but there are many more variations to fantasy football than PPR vs. Non PPR! All of which are tons of fun.
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby Matthias » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:33 pm

dgan wrote:The idea that "moving the chains" is more valuable than big plays doesn't make sense to me. Yardage and scoring are the only two things that matter in football. Running a play has no value, be it an attempted pass, completed pass, rushing attempt, etc... OK, maybe a first down should be rewarded?

3rd and 2. Donald Driver catches a 4 yard pass.

3rd and 15. Calvin Johnson catches a 14 yard pass.

Equal value? ONLY IF Green Bay gets ANOTHER first down. If they don't, Calvin Johnson had the more productive play!

Again, I'm not a PPR basher. I'm just annoyed by the "catching the ball helps the team". Shawngee has the argument I'm looking for.

Our league awards 1 pt for every 10 yards and .25 pts for every first down. So yes, Calvin Johnson had the more productive real football and fantasy football play.

3rd and 2. WR catches 4 yard pass.
3rd and 10. WR catches 5 yard pass.

The first guy scores slightly more points. Seems right to me.
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby Kareighuis » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:18 pm

Matthias wrote:Our league awards 1 pt for every 10 yards and .25 pts for every first down. So yes, Calvin Johnson had the more productive real football and fantasy football play.

3rd and 2. WR catches 4 yard pass.
3rd and 10. WR catches 5 yard pass.

The first guy scores slightly more points. Seems right to me.


I like that setup, though maybe a little less for a 1st down, like .15 or so. Just put in decimal scoring (.1 for each yard) and that'd be cool with me.
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby moose_ffc » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:14 pm

RBBCs + PPR = too much weight to WRs
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby swyck » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:03 pm

I love ppr, not meant to devalue RBs or to raise up WRs, but to me a pass reception is one of THE football stats. At least it's one I always look at, so I guess you could say it's one of my favorites. I won't argue that it's more or less important than other stats, just that I don't see any reason NOT to include it in fantasy.

Having said that, in the league I commish I count 0.5 ppr. I think it skews rankings a bit at 1 ppr, but I'd rather 1 than 0. ;-D
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby Guru13 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:34 pm

I like a half a point per reception. Everybody's happy.
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby Kareighuis » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:49 pm

FantasyFutballGuru13 wrote:I like a half a point per reception. Everybody's happy.


A number of posters in this thread would disagree with you.
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby Guru13 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:15 pm

Kareighuis wrote:
FantasyFutballGuru13 wrote:I like a half a point per reception. Everybody's happy.


A number of posters in this thread would disagree with you.

Ya I know. :-b
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Re: Somebody explain to me why non-PPR still exists?

Postby ironman » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:42 am

I like PPR but I also don't mind not having it. Everyone has their own preferences. Like I love IDP and abhor Team Defense.
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