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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby knapplc » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:35 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:It's not difficult to have this conversation at all. Robinson is clearly in front. It just gets easier to have the conversation as the year plays out.


Who is in your top five right now? We know you'd have Shoelace in there, but who else?
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:50 am

knapplc wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:It's not difficult to have this conversation at all. Robinson is clearly in front. It just gets easier to have the conversation as the year plays out.


Who is in your top five right now? We know you'd have Shoelace in there, but who else?


Robinson - No question and he'll continue to put up numbers today. Just a matter of whether or not we can sustain the early season momentum with some more victories. As far as him individually, Iowa will be the real test next week. Their loss to Arizona was a fail in every other facet of the game; their defense played excellent ball and is one of the best in the country.

James - Putting up sick numbers against solid competition. If Robinson falters, he's my pick.

Martinez - Not getting enough pub IMO and I'm not saying this to kiss your ass knapp. :-b

Pryor - He'll probably move up a spot or two during the season but overall I've never been totally impressed with him. OSU wins with their defense.

Moore - Sorry, not giving it to a guy who puts up huge numbers against crap competition all season. Not saying it's his fault obviously, but sorry I'm looking elsewhere.
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:22 am

So is the only reason you guys aren't even addressing my question on DT not being mentioned because he has LaMike in the backfield?

I mean really....those numbers are pretty damn impressive considering he is feeding another Heisman hopeful the ball.

Denard Robinson Passing :67/96 1008 yards, comp. 69.8%, 10.50 avg. 7 TD's - 1 INT rating 180.0 Rushing: 98 carries 905 yards 9.2 ypc 8 TD's

Terrelle Pryor Passing: 80/123 1015 yards, comp. 65.0%, 8.25 avg. 12 TD's - 3 INT's rating 161.7 Rushing: 54 carries 373 yards 6.9 ypc 3 TD's

Darron Thomas Passing: 78/135 1060 yards, comp 57.8%, 7.85 avg. 13 TD's - 5 INT's rating 148.1 Rushing: 34 carries 219 yards 6.4 ypc 2 TD's


My top 5 as of right now...

Shoelaces
LaMike
Pryor
Martinez
DT

Yeah, no way Kellen Moore is even scratching the top five for me. I'd put Ingram, Cam Newton, and Andrew Luck ahead of him easy.
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:32 am

lol I forgot about Newton AND Ingram. Shame on me. Boot Moore out and put Ingram in there with Newton as 5b.
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:33 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:lol I forgot about Newton AND Ingram. Shame on me. Boot Moore out and put Ingram in there with Newton as 5b.

You forgot about DT too. :-[
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:34 am

Metroid wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:lol I forgot about Newton AND Ingram. Shame on me. Boot Moore out and put Ingram in there with Newton as 5b.

You forgot about DT too. :-[


I have a hard time putting two teammates in a top 5. DT is 5c.
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:50 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:
Metroid wrote:
AquaMan2342 wrote:lol I forgot about Newton AND Ingram. Shame on me. Boot Moore out and put Ingram in there with Newton as 5b.

You forgot about DT too. :-[


I have a hard time putting two teammates in a top 5. DT is 5c.

Remember Bush and Leinart? It's not all that uncommon.

EDIT: I guess "uncommon" isn't the right word, "it can happen" is more like it.
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:58 am

I was going to say.....it's totally uncommon lol
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Metroid » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:05 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:I was going to say.....it's totally uncommon lol

haha...yeah totally. :-b
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Re: 2010 Heisman Offensive Player Trophy

Postby Sandrock » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:43 pm

Are you guys actually serious when you're talking about T-Magic and D. Thomas as shortlist Heisman candidates? Thomas' numbers pale in comparison Pryor, who pales in comparison to Robinson. He's a longshot at best. As for T-Magic, he was pushed around by the powerhouse that is South Dakota State, 40% completions and twice as many picks than TDs. Longshot status for him as well.

There are plenty of players that should be getting some attention, but are getting ignored as usual.

Dan Persa - lowest completion percentage on the season, 75%, 80% overall, all while playing behind one of the worst offensive lines in college football
Colin Kapernick - 70% completions (higher than Robinson), 17 TD, almost 200 more rushing yards than Pryor, fewer picks than Pryor, no sacks on the year
Justin Blackmon - 16 YPC, 11 TDs and 750 yards through 5 games. Need I say more?
Jordan Todman - Workhorse back, eats up ground, most yards through 5 games, tied for 2nd for TD for all RB, would have probably put up 200 yards if he had played vs Buffalo
Andrew Luck - Toughest schedule out of every candidate by far, should be getting way more love
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