Late round wide receivers...

[Shark1225]

Not sure how late you are talking but I like B. Edwards this year along with Malcolm Floyd, both will be middle to late.

As for true late rounders, I love Berrian and Golden Tate and D.Williams for DEN and D. Thomas for WAS.

[Guru13]

I just responded to the TJ Housh thread so i guess this is an obvious encore... Housh should bounceback from an injury riddled campaign but dont expect Huge #s from him, draft em as a WR4 in the 9th Rd or later and youll be Good!!

I seem to be the ONLY guy (and i mean ONLY) high on Anthony Gonzalez... and I LOVE it that way!!! He was supposed to be Peytons "new" #2 WR lastyr but he got hurt in Q1 of Wk1... there went that breakout year!! Fast forward 1 season later, and Anthony Gonzalez isnt even on the radar, infact he can be had in the 13th Rd (just got em in the 14th of a 10 teamer!). Thats DIRT Cheap for a guy who could be Peytons #2 WR by seasons end!! He and Peyton were supposed to be on the same page before lastyr and i personally dont think Garcon is talented enough to completely block Gonzalez from getting 800+ Yds and 6 TDs... maybe optomistic, but I think these numbers may be conservative by seasons end, im That Confident in A-Gon!!!!

Dexter McCluster has WR/RB Eligibility and not since Marques Colston, have we seen such talent with such AMAZING Position Eligibility... in PPR, hes gonna put up 10+ Pts a Game. In standard leagues, hell still provide great value. Hes gonna give u the consistency of a RB, getting 10 Touches a game, and hes being worked at WR and should see WR Screens, Reverses, and is a BIG Play Threat on any given play!!! Like Gonzalez above, hes going VERY Late, and in some formats, undrafted (recently went undrafted in my 10-team 16 rd draft 2 days ago! I wouldve taken em but I needed a K and Defense!). In Standard Formats, id wait till late n snag em but in PPR, id target him around the 12 Rd, as he will be electric this season!!!

Hope i could be of help... theres a couple of other Diamonds in the Rough at WR going late (Mike Williams WR-TB just to name one) but ill let others get to those! Goodluck!!!

Mike Williams has twice the value of any of those three.

[biju]

I just responded to the TJ Housh thread so i guess this is an obvious encore... Housh should bounceback from an injury riddled campaign but dont expect Huge #s from him, draft em as a WR4 in the 9th Rd or later and youll be Good!!

I seem to be the ONLY guy (and i mean ONLY) high on Anthony Gonzalez... and I LOVE it that way!!! He was supposed to be Peytons "new" #2 WR lastyr but he got hurt in Q1 of Wk1... there went that breakout year!! Fast forward 1 season later, and Anthony Gonzalez isnt even on the radar, infact he can be had in the 13th Rd (just got em in the 14th of a 10 teamer!). Thats DIRT Cheap for a guy who could be Peytons #2 WR by seasons end!! He and Peyton were supposed to be on the same page before lastyr and i personally dont think Garcon is talented enough to completely block Gonzalez from getting 800+ Yds and 6 TDs... maybe optomistic, but I think these numbers may be conservative by seasons end, im That Confident in A-Gon!!!!

Dexter McCluster has WR/RB Eligibility and not since Marques Colston, have we seen such talent with such AMAZING Position Eligibility... in PPR, hes gonna put up 10+ Pts a Game. In standard leagues, hell still provide great value. Hes gonna give u the consistency of a RB, getting 10 Touches a game, and hes being worked at WR and should see WR Screens, Reverses, and is a BIG Play Threat on any given play!!! Like Gonzalez above, hes going VERY Late, and in some formats, undrafted (recently went undrafted in my 10-team 16 rd draft 2 days ago! I wouldve taken em but I needed a K and Defense!). In Standard Formats, id wait till late n snag em but in PPR, id target him around the 12 Rd, as he will be electric this season!!!

Hope i could be of help... theres a couple of other Diamonds in the Rough at WR going late (Mike Williams WR-TB just to name one) but ill let others get to those! Goodluck!!!

Mike Williams has twice the value of any of those three.

In dynasty yes. In keepers, maybe. In a redraft no.

I'm not sure what happened over the past couple of years but I think people are highly overrating rookie WRs. There aren't going to be 4 rooks with 800+ yards this year. Hell, there's likely to not even be *one*. Housh in a horrible year put up 900 yards. I think we've gotten to a point of great irrational exuberance for rookie WRs.

[SetYourselfFree]

I just responded to the TJ Housh thread so i guess this is an obvious encore... Housh should bounceback from an injury riddled campaign but dont expect Huge #s from him, draft em as a WR4 in the 9th Rd or later and youll be Good!!

I seem to be the ONLY guy (and i mean ONLY) high on Anthony Gonzalez... and I LOVE it that way!!! He was supposed to be Peytons "new" #2 WR lastyr but he got hurt in Q1 of Wk1... there went that breakout year!! Fast forward 1 season later, and Anthony Gonzalez isnt even on the radar, infact he can be had in the 13th Rd (just got em in the 14th of a 10 teamer!). Thats DIRT Cheap for a guy who could be Peytons #2 WR by seasons end!! He and Peyton were supposed to be on the same page before lastyr and i personally dont think Garcon is talented enough to completely block Gonzalez from getting 800+ Yds and 6 TDs... maybe optomistic, but I think these numbers may be conservative by seasons end, im That Confident in A-Gon!!!!

Dexter McCluster has WR/RB Eligibility and not since Marques Colston, have we seen such talent with such AMAZING Position Eligibility... in PPR, hes gonna put up 10+ Pts a Game. In standard leagues, hell still provide great value. Hes gonna give u the consistency of a RB, getting 10 Touches a game, and hes being worked at WR and should see WR Screens, Reverses, and is a BIG Play Threat on any given play!!! Like Gonzalez above, hes going VERY Late, and in some formats, undrafted (recently went undrafted in my 10-team 16 rd draft 2 days ago! I wouldve taken em but I needed a K and Defense!). In Standard Formats, id wait till late n snag em but in PPR, id target him around the 12 Rd, as he will be electric this season!!!

Hope i could be of help... theres a couple of other Diamonds in the Rough at WR going late (Mike Williams WR-TB just to name one) but ill let others get to those! Goodluck!!!

Mike Williams has twice the value of any of those three.

In dynasty yes. In keepers, maybe. In a redraft no.

I'm not sure what happened over the past couple of years but I think people are highly overrating rookie WRs. There aren't going to be 4 rooks with 800+ yards this year. Hell, there's likely to not even be *one*. Housh in a horrible year put up 900 yards. I think we've gotten to a point of great irrational exuberance for rookie WRs.

Not many rookies are instantly thrust into unquestioned #1 recieving roles...

[Kareighuis]

I just responded to the TJ Housh thread so i guess this is an obvious encore... Housh should bounceback from an injury riddled campaign but dont expect Huge #s from him, draft em as a WR4 in the 9th Rd or later and youll be Good!!

I seem to be the ONLY guy (and i mean ONLY) high on Anthony Gonzalez... and I LOVE it that way!!! He was supposed to be Peytons "new" #2 WR lastyr but he got hurt in Q1 of Wk1... there went that breakout year!! Fast forward 1 season later, and Anthony Gonzalez isnt even on the radar, infact he can be had in the 13th Rd (just got em in the 14th of a 10 teamer!). Thats DIRT Cheap for a guy who could be Peytons #2 WR by seasons end!! He and Peyton were supposed to be on the same page before lastyr and i personally dont think Garcon is talented enough to completely block Gonzalez from getting 800+ Yds and 6 TDs... maybe optomistic, but I think these numbers may be conservative by seasons end, im That Confident in A-Gon!!!!

Dexter McCluster has WR/RB Eligibility and not since Marques Colston, have we seen such talent with such AMAZING Position Eligibility... in PPR, hes gonna put up 10+ Pts a Game. In standard leagues, hell still provide great value. Hes gonna give u the consistency of a RB, getting 10 Touches a game, and hes being worked at WR and should see WR Screens, Reverses, and is a BIG Play Threat on any given play!!! Like Gonzalez above, hes going VERY Late, and in some formats, undrafted (recently went undrafted in my 10-team 16 rd draft 2 days ago! I wouldve taken em but I needed a K and Defense!). In Standard Formats, id wait till late n snag em but in PPR, id target him around the 12 Rd, as he will be electric this season!!!

Hope i could be of help... theres a couple of other Diamonds in the Rough at WR going late (Mike Williams WR-TB just to name one) but ill let others get to those! Goodluck!!!

Mike Williams has twice the value of any of those three.

In dynasty yes. In keepers, maybe. In a redraft no.

I'm not sure what happened over the past couple of years but I think people are highly overrating rookie WRs. There aren't going to be 4 rooks with 800+ yards this year. Hell, there's likely to not even be *one*. Housh in a horrible year put up 900 yards. I think we've gotten to a point of great irrational exuberance for rookie WRs.

I might agree with you on the Greenspan/rookie WR comment (how often does the former Fed Reserve head get quoted in a conversation about FF?), but I can easily see that Housh won't get near that yardage total. Seattle is rebuilding and has a bunch of quality WRs behind him. The coaches will want to know how they perform. Garbage time, he'll be on the bench, Butler, Tate et al will be on the field.

Combine that with this recent report- "NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Seahawks are actively trying to trade T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
"Good luck. A poor fit for new OC Jeremy Bates' vertical offense, Housh turns 33 later this month and is due a $7 million base salary. The only way Seattle could move him is if Houshmandzadeh agreed to a pay cut. Surely that's not happening because the $7 million is fully guaranteed. Outside of perhaps St. Louis and Cleveland, the Seahawks' receiver corps is shaping up as one of the weakest in the league. Vincent Jackson should still be in their radar. Sep. 2 - 4:48 pm et"

[biju]

Mike Williams has twice the value of any of those three.

In dynasty yes. In keepers, maybe. In a redraft no.

I'm not sure what happened over the past couple of years but I think people are highly overrating rookie WRs. There aren't going to be 4 rooks with 800+ yards this year. Hell, there's likely to not even be *one*. Housh in a horrible year put up 900 yards. I think we've gotten to a point of great irrational exuberance for rookie WRs.

I might agree with you on the Greenspan/rookie WR comment (how often does the former Fed Reserve head get quoted in a conversation about FF?), but I can easily see that Housh won't get near that yardage total. Seattle is rebuilding and has a bunch of quality WRs behind him. The coaches will want to know how they perform. Garbage time, he'll be on the bench, Butler, Tate et al will be on the field.

Combine that with this recent report- "NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Seahawks are actively trying to trade T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
"Good luck. A poor fit for new OC Jeremy Bates' vertical offense, Housh turns 33 later this month and is due a $7 million base salary. The only way Seattle could move him is if Houshmandzadeh agreed to a pay cut. Surely that's not happening because the $7 million is fully guaranteed. Outside of perhaps St. Louis and Cleveland, the Seahawks' receiver corps is shaping up as one of the weakest in the league. Vincent Jackson should still be in their radar. Sep. 2 - 4:48 pm et"

Housh won't get near 900 yards this season? I'll take that sig bet any day. As long as the guy plays 13 games this season he'll hit that number. For the record you're quoting Rotoworld's Greg Rosenthal. I'm sorry, but that guy hates anything West and perma-boners over anything East so I would take all of his comments with a huge grain of salt.

[Kareighuis]

I'm not sure what happened over the past couple of years but I think people are highly overrating rookie WRs. There aren't going to be 4 rooks with 800+ yards this year. Hell, there's likely to not even be *one*. Housh in a horrible year put up 900 yards. I think we've gotten to a point of great irrational exuberance for rookie WRs.

I might agree with you on the Greenspan/rookie WR comment (how often does the former Fed Reserve head get quoted in a conversation about FF?), but I can easily see that Housh won't get near that yardage total. Seattle is rebuilding and has a bunch of quality WRs behind him. The coaches will want to know how they perform. Garbage time, he'll be on the bench, Butler, Tate et al will be on the field.

Combine that with this recent report- "NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Seahawks are actively trying to trade T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
"Good luck. A poor fit for new OC Jeremy Bates' vertical offense, Housh turns 33 later this month and is due a $7 million base salary. The only way Seattle could move him is if Houshmandzadeh agreed to a pay cut. Surely that's not happening because the $7 million is fully guaranteed. Outside of perhaps St. Louis and Cleveland, the Seahawks' receiver corps is shaping up as one of the weakest in the league. Vincent Jackson should still be in their radar. Sep. 2 - 4:48 pm et"

Housh won't get near 900 yards this season? I'll take that sig bet any day. As long as the guy plays 13 games this season he'll hit that number. For the record you're quoting Rotoworld's Greg Rosenthal. I'm sorry, but that guy hates anything West and perma-boners over anything East so I would take all of his comments with a huge grain of salt.

I just quoted him to show that an "expert" thought the same- Housh is poor fit for his team's eventual path, rather some nebulous gut feeling.

"As long as"?- If he played all 16 games, then yeah, he'd have a good chance. But, if he's still a Hawk, the team will find he's injured (meaning fabricate one) and force him to the bench by late in the season. I don't dispute that he can't serve a role and be a productive member. I don't think he's useless. However, his presence (and Deion Branch's) impede the young, skill WRs behind them. It's an issue they need to rectify.

So, what kind of sig bet you talking?

[biju]

I might agree with you on the Greenspan/rookie WR comment (how often does the former Fed Reserve head get quoted in a conversation about FF?), but I can easily see that Housh won't get near that yardage total. Seattle is rebuilding and has a bunch of quality WRs behind him. The coaches will want to know how they perform. Garbage time, he'll be on the bench, Butler, Tate et al will be on the field.

Combine that with this recent report- "NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the Seahawks are actively trying to trade T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
"Good luck. A poor fit for new OC Jeremy Bates' vertical offense, Housh turns 33 later this month and is due a $7 million base salary. The only way Seattle could move him is if Houshmandzadeh agreed to a pay cut. Surely that's not happening because the $7 million is fully guaranteed. Outside of perhaps St. Louis and Cleveland, the Seahawks' receiver corps is shaping up as one of the weakest in the league. Vincent Jackson should still be in their radar. Sep. 2 - 4:48 pm et"

Housh won't get near 900 yards this season? I'll take that sig bet any day. As long as the guy plays 13 games this season he'll hit that number. For the record you're quoting Rotoworld's Greg Rosenthal. I'm sorry, but that guy hates anything West and perma-boners over anything East so I would take all of his comments with a huge grain of salt.

I just quoted him to show that an "expert" thought the same- Housh is poor fit for his team's eventual path, rather some nebulous gut feeling.

"As long as"?- If he played all 16 games, then yeah, he'd have a good chance. But, if he's still a Hawk, the team will find he's injured (meaning fabricate one) and force him to the bench by late in the season. I don't dispute that he can't serve a role and be a productive member. I don't think he's useless. However, his presence (and Deion Branch's) impede the young, skill WRs behind them. It's an issue they need to rectify.

So, what kind of sig bet you talking?

You haven't been following Carroll's mantra of competition. I honestly don't think he cares if these guys get reps, he'd rather them fight and win it instead of be gifted it. You're also automatically assuming the Seahawks aren't going to be competitive, but in a weak division a 9-7 record is going to take the NFC West.

In terms of a sig bet, it sounds like you'd take the under on 900 and I'm taking the over. Is there much else to discuss?

[Kareighuis]

Housh won't get near 900 yards this season? I'll take that sig bet any day. As long as the guy plays 13 games this season he'll hit that number. For the record you're quoting Rotoworld's Greg Rosenthal. I'm sorry, but that guy hates anything West and perma-boners over anything East so I would take all of his comments with a huge grain of salt.

I just quoted him to show that an "expert" thought the same- Housh is poor fit for his team's eventual path, rather some nebulous gut feeling.

"As long as"?- If he played all 16 games, then yeah, he'd have a good chance. But, if he's still a Hawk, the team will find he's injured (meaning fabricate one) and force him to the bench by late in the season. I don't dispute that he can't serve a role and be a productive member. I don't think he's useless. However, his presence (and Deion Branch's) impede the young, skill WRs behind them. It's an issue they need to rectify.

So, what kind of sig bet you talking?

You haven't been following Carroll's mantra of competition. I honestly don't think he cares if these guys get reps, he'd rather them fight and win it instead of be gifted it. You're also automatically assuming the Seahawks aren't going to be competitive, but in a weak division a 9-7 record is going to take the NFC West.

In terms of a sig bet, it sounds like you'd take the under on 900 and I'm taking the over. Is there much else to discuss?

Yeah, he's trying to instill competition. Too bad he doesn't have much to work with.

I'm not really assuming so much as not bothering to mention it- I was assuming it was so obvious it wasn't worth pointing out. It sounds like you disagree. I'd be willing to wager they won't win more than 6 games. And yes, there is more to discuss- I've never done one. What happens when I win?

[Sex Panther]

Julian Edelman deserves mention, I still am having a hard time wrapping my head around how Welker can be close to 100% - I would be shocked if he plays all 16, and Edelman will fill in nicely IMO.