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Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby u_fig_eater » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:32 am

The saying goes, don't bench your stud...unless he's facing Revis and the Jets. But, it's looking like Revis will hold out. Also, Calvin Pace will miss 4-6 weeks due to surgery. As a Flacco owner, I'm concerned with the week 1 matchup in particular, but we can keep the discussion more general. What is your comfort level starting a WR or QB facing the Jets now, compared to if they had Revis?
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby bagobonez » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:10 am

u_fig_eater wrote:The saying goes, don't bench your stud...unless he's facing Revis and the Jets. But, it's looking like Revis will hold out. Also, Calvin Pace will miss 4-6 weeks due to surgery. As a Flacco owner, I'm concerned with the week 1 matchup in particular, but we can keep the discussion more general. What is your comfort level starting a WR or QB facing the Jets now, compared to if they had Revis?


Still not a favorable match-up though it's not as stifling as it would be if Revis were in. I think another thing that helps the Jets' D is that the Jets love to run the ball which keeps their D (and opposing offense) on the bench for significant amounts of time.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby LMack » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:33 pm

The Jet's D loses some value, but its not a terrible swing. If you are the type to grab a top D, the Jet's still qualify.
The bigger swing in my eyes is Randy Moss and Brandon Marshall now have 2 less games on Revis Island.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby Dawinner127 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:26 pm

Homerism or not, the Jets still have a top 5 defense. Revis solidified them at #1, but without, they are still top 5. Cromartie will simply shift over to CB1 and Wilson will fill in nicely has a CB2.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby mattb47 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:36 pm

Sorry...but you take Revis away from them and they lose a pretty good deal of their potentially great defense. I think people are underplaying a bit just how big a deal is that Revis could essentially take away a team's best receiver for an entire game...every game. Cromartie and Wilson aren't bad, but they can't do that and you basically give that receiver back to the offense again which generally significantly increases the quality of the opposing offense. They don't have great pass rushers to begin with so I think that combined with no longer having Revis will allow them to be passed on a lot more than they were last season.

Don't be surprised if their run defense is top 5 but they aren't in the top half in pass defense on the season if Revis doesn't play.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby Dawinner127 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:03 pm

mattb47 wrote:Sorry...but you take Revis away from them and they lose a pretty good deal of their potentially great defense. I think people are underplaying a bit just how big a deal is that Revis could essentially take away a team's best receiver for an entire game...every game. Cromartie and Wilson aren't bad, but they can't do that and you basically give that receiver back to the offense again which generally significantly increases the quality of the opposing offense. They don't have great pass rushers to begin with so I think that combined with no longer having Revis will allow them to be passed on a lot more than they were last season.

Don't be surprised if their run defense is top 5 but they aren't in the top half in pass defense on the season if Revis doesn't play.

The Jets lost Kris Jenkins in week 3 of last year. Everyone forgets that the Jets were the top overall defense without one of the best NY in the sport; getting him back his a tremendous upgrade over Pouha and Devito.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby mattb47 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:19 pm

Losing Kris Jenkins...as good as he is...is NOT coming close to the kind of impact that losing someone like Revis is. You can still maintain the tough run defense like that even without a Kris Jenkins...but losing a true shutdown corner like Revis is a monstrous blow to your passing defense that you can't really fully compensate for.
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby Dawinner127 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:54 pm

mattb47 wrote:Losing Kris Jenkins...as good as he is...is NOT coming close to the kind of impact that losing someone like Revis is. You can still maintain the tough run defense like that even without a Kris Jenkins...but losing a true shutdown corner like Revis is a monstrous blow to your passing defense that you can't really fully compensate for.

Well, looks like this argument is done. Mr Revis is back in New York Green
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Re: Is Jets D still deadly without Revis?

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:05 am

looks like we won't have to find out
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