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Chris Johnson trade, need advice! WHIR

Postby ocbc » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:38 am

Ok, this is a 14 team league with standard scoring plus .5 ppr. 3 bonus pts for 150 ru/re yard games. So, with vick becoming a permanent QB I can now trade off a QB to get some depth. There are teams in need of a QB in the league. The following offer was proposed and I immediately thought NO WAY! but looking at it closer I thought I would throw it out to you all for advice:
I give up: C. Johnson and Flacco
I get: Antonio Gates, R. Wayne, and Shone Green

This is a clear downgrade at RB, but numbers wise I could actually put more point on the board if gates and wayne continue playing like they are, even if CJ goes off. Thoughts?

My roster:

qb: M. Vick
RB1: C. johnson
RB2: T. Hightower
WR1: Fitz
WR2: G. jennings
Flex: M. Williams (TB)
Te: J. Witten

Bn: J. Flacco
Bn: C. Henne
Bn: Donald Brown
Bn: Peyton hyllis
Bn: Keiland Williams
Bn: Laurent Robinson

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Re: Chris Johnson trade, need advice! WHIR

Postby aznf007 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:43 am

No to this trade since you already have Witten. Vick's job is still not set in stone because why would Philadelphia pay Kolb only not to play him? Secondly, the only upgrade you would be able to get definitely is your flex. But at the expense of CJ I don't think it is worth it. If this trade were to go through, you would be having a potential starter on another team sitting on your bench, i.e. Witten, Jennings. And there is no guarantee that you would be able to trade that player for an upgrade on your starting roster.
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Re: Chris Johnson trade, need advice! WHIR

Postby bluecheezit » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:54 am

This actually doesn't look bad. Flacco just had a 4 int game, so if you look at him as selling low, you're basically going CJ for Gate, Wayne and Greene. Granted, I don't like Greene all that much, so now it looks to me like CJ for Gates and Wayne. With that, I have to agree that I don't like this very much for all the same reasons. Vick might not stick around forever, which leaves you with Henne; Witten is already a good TE, which means you'd be benching a good player; and one of your good WR (most likely Jennings or Williams) would be benched per week while you try to figure out which of your RBs is going to do well this week. I vote no.

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10 Team; 1QB/2RB/2WR/1Flex/1K/1D; Standard; Non-ppr
QB: Vick, Orton
RB: Forte, Bradshaw, Addai, Lynch
WR: D.Jackson, S.Smith(Car), Garcon, Bess, Blair White
TE: Hernandez
K: Hanson
D: Phi, Ari
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Re: Chris Johnson trade, need advice! WHIR

Postby P1Army » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:33 pm

The initial problem with this is just a tad bit of uncertainty with Vick. Granted he shredded the Lions, but it was the lions. With the league showing a propensity for quarterback carousels as soon as the starter struggles I’d be worried about leaning on Vick entirely until he shows that he can perform at a high level against a solid defense and it looks like that may not happen until Next week against Washington and the following week @ SF and the last thing you’d want to do is end up having to start Henne. Is josh Freeman available in your league just to add a little depth to the situation while we all get a good read on Vick? I’m just posturing that as an idea to keep you sane if Vick struggles. However, in my opinion it looks like Vick is a lock, I don’t see him falling off against the Jags and therefore I don’t see him as a risk to lose his starting job. If you feel confident that Vick will not lose his job then I would pull the trigger on this deal. In 2009 a year in which the chargers employed Vincent Jackson Antonio Gates was ranked #11 in the NFL in receiving yards, his seasonal yards were better than D Jax, Brandon Marshall, Greg Jennings and Larry Fitzgerald. By trading for Gates you get basically the Chargers #1 receiver, and Reggie Wayne was tied for 5th overall. You pull the trigger on this deal and you are looking at a starting lineup containing the most productive receivers in 3 of the most high octane offenses in the league in the Colts, Packers and Chargers. Looking at your RB situation you’re probably sitting on one or two backs that could float into top 15 contention in Hillis Williams or Hightower, and Greene plays on an offense that put up over 2500 yards on the ground last year. Greene will be an asset this season. Plus as soon as you hold Greene you should make a play to trade him to Tomlinson owners or use Hillis, Williams or Hightower to pull Tomlinson onto your team. Locking up the jets run offense with that group of receivers will be devastating. If it were me, I’s roll the dice on Vick and make this deal.
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