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Re: Ray Rice? Buy low or anemic offense?

Postby Azrael » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:28 pm

Montana168 wrote:
bandrus1 wrote:
Montana168 wrote:Man, a lot of you guys on this board crack me up. Foster is no where near Ray Rice's level, IMO. Foster had 1 good game against a terrible Indy team. Then went against an average to solid washington defense that held him to 3.6 YPC, and the only reason he had a useful day was because of 1 50 yd run. Take that away and he had 2 catches for 19 yds, and not 3 catches for 69 yds. Lets see him put together an entire season before we crown him a top 4 RB.

As far as Rice goes, I would agree that he is a great buy low option. Should be able to light up Cleveland today, if he doesn't, I would question whether his minor ankle injury he suffered last week is still a problem. But I agree, as mentioned above, that if Rice has a mediocre game, his best buy window might be after next week when he faces Pitt, but I expect a breakout game for Rice against Cleveland today...at least I hope.


Foster is the back in an offense that scores a million points per game you can draft him like you draft somebody who plays for the yankees

Rice plays on a team who wants to play low scoring games, has a proven back behind him that they are willing to let score TD's


Or you can look at it in that Foster plays for a team that is a pass first team and they are not afraid to abandon the run if they get behind early, and Rice plays for a team that is a run-first team and they will establish the run all day if they have to and won't abandon it.



Except that's not how it's playing out in real life. Last week Houston had to throw their a$$es off to come back and win that game and Foster still scored anywhere from 12-14 fantasy points. This week they got beat down again and Foster still scored a dozen fantasy points on 20+ touches. I'm failing to see where the "pass first team" garbage is going to hurt him. His team has attempted 93 passes in the last 2 games, which is really a result of their game circumstances and not really their "pass first" mentality, but let's go with that. He still touched the ball over 20 times in those games and scored double digit fantasy points.
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Re: Ray Rice? Buy low or anemic offense?

Postby Kareighuis » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:04 am

Azrael wrote:
Montana168 wrote:
bandrus1 wrote:
Foster is the back in an offense that scores a million points per game you can draft him like you draft somebody who plays for the yankees

Rice plays on a team who wants to play low scoring games, has a proven back behind him that they are willing to let score TD's


Or you can look at it in that Foster plays for a team that is a pass first team and they are not afraid to abandon the run if they get behind early, and Rice plays for a team that is a run-first team and they will establish the run all day if they have to and won't abandon it.


Except that's not how it's playing out in real life. Last week Houston had to throw their a$$es off to come back and win that game and Foster still scored anywhere from 12-14 fantasy points. This week they got beat down again and Foster still scored a dozen fantasy points on 20+ touches. I'm failing to see where the "pass first team" garbage is going to hurt him. His team has attempted 93 passes in the last 2 games, which is really a result of their game circumstances and not really their "pass first" mentality, but let's go with that. He still touched the ball over 20 times in those games and scored double digit fantasy points.


Your right. You and I might see that, but it's a good argument to make in case you're trying to buy after that huge 1st week and at-best-mediocre subsequent weeks.
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Re: Ray Rice? Buy low or anemic offense?

Postby LS2throwed » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:07 pm

I'd easily rather have Foster over Rice at this point and going forward, there is just alot more to like about Foster, and honestly people get too caught up in where people were drafted and what they did last year.


Rice is a great buy low candidate after the Steeler game no doubt, but that being said, Foster is probably gonna outscore him. He doesn't have competition for carries, the offense moves the ball better, he gets all the goal line carries and they'll be in the red zone more. If I was a Rice owner and I could get Foster for him I would easily do it, but if not I'd rather sit on him and ride it out.
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Re: Ray Rice? Buy low or anemic offense?

Postby Jimboozie » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:50 pm

yes, rice is a good buy low candidate. the guy is a beast, and will get it going soon, maybe even against pittsburgh.

no, i wouldn't take rice for foster straight up at this point. i know a lot of us at the cafe berate and mock yahoo fantasy "expert" brandon funston, but he has foster #3 on his updated big board, #3 overall. that isn't a knock on rice, but a vote foster fits perfectly in the explosive houston offense, is skilled, and a rare workhorse back in the commitee era.
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