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I'M STILL TORN-MCFADDEN/COLLIE FOR MATHEWS/JENNINGS? WHIR!

Postby Doctor P » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:20 pm

Ask me to do this trade before the season and I do it in a heartbeat, but obviously things are a little different now...

Here is my team, well my RBs and WRs anyway:

RBs: Gore, Pierre Thomas, McFadden, Best
WRs: Collie, Harvin, Bowe, Knox, Walter

His RBs: Mendenhall, Matthews, Moreno, Fred Taylor
His Wrs: Jennings, Boldin, Garcon, Maclin, Royal

He wants my Collie and McFadden for his Jennings and Matthews

By the way, we start 2 RBs, 2 WRs and a flex....

I would love Jennings, as I think he's a great buy low candidate, but would I be giving too much?

Trade or stay put?
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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby Doctor P » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:25 pm

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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby Doughhead » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:31 pm

I like it. It's a gamble, obviously, but there's something to be said for selling high and buying low.

I think McFadden could be legit, but he's notoriously injury-prone, and he plays in an offense that probably won't score a whole lot. Collie has developed a nice chemistry with Manning, but there are so many weapons in Indy--especially when Garcon comes back--that you know there will be some lean weeks for him. I still believe that Wayne and Clark are Manning's top options, and Collie's value will probably never be higher.

Matthews and Jennings are great talents, and both will have lots of opportunities to produce in very good offenses. Roll the dice on this one!

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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby sadlyajetsfan » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:52 pm

I like that deal for you. Could end up not going in your favor but I'd say you are much more likely to end up with the better deal. Trades like this can win championships.

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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby matt2v17 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:58 pm

I would jump on this, I agree entirely with your first reply in McFadden and Collie will wear out over the season while Matthews and Jennings are likely to get better throughout the season.

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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby Doctor P » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:58 pm

Anybody think it's a bad idea? I'd like to get a few more opinion, because in my mind it's a gamble, adding a RB coming off a high ankle sprain to join my roster that already has Pierre Thomas and Best banged up. But I agree that Collie can't keep up this pace....but will DMC??


Again, WHIR
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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby CBMGreatOne » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:05 pm

I honestly don't think it's a slam dunk. You're definitely "selling high" so to speak, but people don't seem to be considering the following possibilities:

Maybe this is the year McFadden finally lives up to his potential.

Maybe Collie is the #2 WR Peyton has been looking for. (Shoot he's the #1 WR in all of fantasy land right now)

Maybe Mathews isn't as good as we thought he was going to be.

Maybe Jennings is falling victim to the New Orleans WR syndrome where the QB is so talented and so eager to spread the wealth that you can't count on him from week to week. The low volume of catches concerns me.

Right now I'd cautiously rank Collie as a top 12ish WR and McFadden as a top 12ish RB. I'm not convinced that Mathews distinguishes himself or that Jennings ever becomes the player he was in 07/08 again. I think if I were you I'd actually pass.

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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby bobznc » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:15 pm

I think you're receiving great value considering yoour oppositions draft picks versus your's/ waiver wire awareness. Jennings and Matthews were 2-3 round picks and Collie and McFadden were either 10 or below/ not even drafted. The players he requested 90% likely have their highest Points per Game at this point that they ever will, and my belief is that both will see a steady decline based on their changing situations due to their teammates coming back from injury. Do it.
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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby Doctor P » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:31 pm

anybody else...WHIR
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Re: Trade away McFadden & Collie for Matthews & Jennings? WHIR!!

Postby Cuffs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:24 pm

McFadden has carried the ball 75 times in 3 games. If he kept up this pace, he'd have 365 carries on the season. There is no way he is keeping up this number of reps. And he's injury prone. This doesn't mean he's not going to make it the full year or have a nice season, but he's not going to average this season what he's averaged over the first 3 games, IMO. Michael Bush just returned and already got a goal line carry. He had pretty much won the job in the preseason. He's talented enough to legitimately deserve reps. If the Raiders staff wants McFadden to last, they're going to cut his workload. Not necessarily that much, but at least down to 15 or so carries per game, IMO.

The injury is a concern for Matthews, but once he's back, they're giving him all the reps he wants.

I owned Wayne last year, and as great a year as he had, he faded hard in the playoffs, with a 3.3 one game. Manning just finds the man the defense is ignoring. Clark & Wayne command the defenses attention, so he hits Collie. Now that Collie's blown up, defense will start focusing on him and Clark or Addai will get some easy TDs. Collie is a good receiver, but I'd still rather have Jennings. It's not like Jennings has Jake Delhomme or Jimmy Clausen throwing to him (a la Steve Smith). Jennings will get plenty of passes thrown to him with Rodgers throwing the ball. He's a talent and makes tough catches.
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