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Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby Jear3 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:43 pm

My Javid Best, Jay Cutler, and Hakeem Nicks for his Peyton Manning and Willis McGahee in heavy PPR.

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I'm 4-1 (soon to be 4-2), and have gotten awful QB play. I have great receivers (Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark) and solid running back play (Ahmad Bradshaw, Ladainian Tomlinson), but haven't had a passing TD in three weeks. I dressed Cutler when he got his concussion (worth 1.1), Gradkowski when he was injured early (0.7), and Cutler with no TD's this week (16.4).

Meanwhile, Manning's owner has an awful team, and is soon to be 0-6. His best RB is Thomas Jones, while his best receivers are Roy Williams and Donald Driver. Best and Nicks would be big upgrades for him, and he has Eli Manning on the bench, so won't be completely reliant on Cutler.

Here are the full rosters:

QB: Cutler
RB: Bradshaw
RB: Tomlinson
WR: A. Johnson
WR: Wayne
RB/WR/TE: Clark
RB/WR/TE: Nicks
K: Akers
DST: Giants

BN QB's: Freeman
BN RB's: Best, F. Jackson, L. Blount
BN WR's: Gaffney, Jacoby Jones
BN TE's: A. Hernandez, Gresham

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QB: P. Manning
RB: T. Jones
RB: McGahee
WR: R. Williams
WR: Driver
RB/WR/TE: Olsen
RB/WR/TE: Celek
K: Hanson
DST: Patriots

BN QB's: E. Manning
BN RB's: J. Stewart
BN WR's: L. Moore, Branch, D. Thomas (Broncos), Naane, S. Rice
BN TE's: H. Miller
QB: Cutler, Freeman
RB: Blount
RB: Bradshaw
WR: A. Johnson (Gaffney)
WR: Wayne
RB/WR/TE: Nicks (Boss)
RB/WR/TE: Tomlinson (Greene, Jennings, Davis)
K: Brown
DST: Giants
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby Moose484848 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:45 pm

Not worth it you are giving up WAY too much.... you can win WITH cutler

Best, and Nicks are Solid starters when healthy.

Peyton is great dont get me wrong but you are giving up too much.

Can you please help with mine???

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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby Jear3 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:48 pm

Moose484848 wrote:Not worth it you are giving up WAY too much.... you can win WITH cutler

Best, and Nicks are Solid starters when healthy.

Peyton is great dont get me wrong but you are giving up too much.

Can you please help with mine???

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It seems like alot, but Best is worse than my other two RB's (and has been benched in two straight weeks), and the production lost from Nicks will be covered by Manning, as well as Jabar Gaffney or Aaron Hernandez, who are basically lighting it up on my bench.
QB: Cutler, Freeman
RB: Blount
RB: Bradshaw
WR: A. Johnson (Gaffney)
WR: Wayne
RB/WR/TE: Nicks (Boss)
RB/WR/TE: Tomlinson (Greene, Jennings, Davis)
K: Brown
DST: Giants
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby Jear3 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:28 pm

I'm about to offer this...any other opinions?
QB: Cutler, Freeman
RB: Blount
RB: Bradshaw
WR: A. Johnson (Gaffney)
WR: Wayne
RB/WR/TE: Nicks (Boss)
RB/WR/TE: Tomlinson (Greene, Jennings, Davis)
K: Brown
DST: Giants
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby grooner10 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:36 pm

i agree you are giving up quite a bit for manning, just offer cutler+nicks/best not both for just manning
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby Jear3 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:36 pm

grooner10 wrote:i agree you are giving up quite a bit for manning, just offer cutler+nicks/best not both for just manning


Okay, maybe I'll try that before offering both.
QB: Cutler, Freeman
RB: Blount
RB: Bradshaw
WR: A. Johnson (Gaffney)
WR: Wayne
RB/WR/TE: Nicks (Boss)
RB/WR/TE: Tomlinson (Greene, Jennings, Davis)
K: Brown
DST: Giants
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby taw856 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:00 pm

I'll grant you it's not fun to start Cutler, and I've actually made a pretty identical Cutler/Ca. Johnson FOR Manning type offer in my league (turned down), but especially in a league where you could theoretically start 4 RBs (unlike my league), I don't think you want to be giving up Best without a serviceable back in return. Not saying Best is elite, but McGahee is worth no more than an occasional random TD unless something happens to Ray Rice, so you'd be downgrading across the board just for an upgrade at one spot.

Basically, I'm with the others. If you can make it happen for Cutler+Nicks/Best, go for it. But more than that and you're really overpaying.
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby bluecheezit » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:23 am

Try offering without Best first. People are saying Cutler+Best/Nicks; I say Cutler+Nicks. You can start 3 RBs and RBs are more reliable (usually) than WRs, so try to keep Best. The original offer is too much to be getting just Manning.

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RB: Forte, Bradshaw, Addai, Lynch
WR: D.Jackson, S.Smith(Car), Garcon, Bess, Blair White
TE: Hernandez
K: Hanson
D: Phi, Ari
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Re: Peyton Manning WHIR!

Postby JRM4833 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:50 am

I think you're giving up too much. McGahee isn't worthy much so it's a 3 for 1 in my eyes and I think Best and Nicks just have too much value. If you were getting something of value as the other piece in the trade I could see making the move. And FWIW, I have Cutler in one of my leagues and am going to try to weather the storm with him until he's back to where he was the first few weeks of the season, which I'm still optimistic about.
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