Do I VETO this trade?!?

[jackarmani]

I've always been a big fan of trades and I realise how because people value different players differently most trades should be allowed to happen regardless of personal opinion.

I am the commissioner in my league but the league veto settings to trades are set to majority rules (I can change and have done twice this year when people have accidently accepted trades they didn't mean to).

However a team that is 9th in my league and out of the playoff race has just accepted a trade with the guy in 5th place:

Phillip Rivers, Rashard Mendenhall, Mike Tolbert
for
Mark Sanchez, Joseph Addai and Darren Sproles

I think this trade will change the guy in 5th's season completely and believe this is collusion/the guy in 9th giving up and just trading away. Am I right?

What should i do?

[rquetzal]

That is extremely suspicious. I'm always a little concerned when a team is mathematically eliminated from the payoffs still making trades, but there is no possible increase in value for the 9th place team in that. It's not like he's trading a higher valued guy in one position to beef up a weakness in another - he's doing like-position trades with the exception of RB for WR - which is a major downgrade alone. If he was dying for a WR, he could have just made a trade with any one of his RBs listed - even that would be suspicious. But then why add the huge huge huge downgrade of Rivers to Sanchez??

I hate vetoing - but this is ridiculous.

[guyj72]

Making vetoes as a commisioner always sucks. This trade is no way fair. The number 9 guy is downgrading at every position without gaining a benefit anywhere. You could try to make the guys discuss why the trade would benefit their own team and when their answers are trash you will have cause for the veto. Honestly I would also consider kicking number 9 out of the league.

[zacks288]

Agreed. Veto. That trade is terrible. I would tell them they won't be allowed to make a trade together the rest of the year on top of the veto.

The 5th place team is getting the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best players in that trade and the 9th place team is getting two guys who should arguably be in the FA depending on how deep the league is and a guy who might not be back for a while.

[jackarmani]

Cheers guys, i have them both a chance to explain what they were getting from the trade.

The guy in 9th said he only accepted as he thought he was out the playoff race and didn't really give a damn. So i veto'd and sent everyone a message saying why.


I now have a second problem concerning one of my own trades, I sent a trade out last week to a guy offering percy harvin for calvin johnson (in our league they are only 6 points apart. The guy accepted yesterday but on his acceptance he added the message "I'm not going to be making playoffs this year, you might as well have him". I dont think the trade is unfair but given why i just veto'd the last trade could this be misconstrued? Especially since i'm the beneficiary.

[B3N1ZJAM1N]

I wouldn't worry about it. When deciding to veto a trade you have to give both parties a chance to say their reasoning, if someone says something, you can tell your reasoning. In my league they are 31 points apart so its not too fair in mine but with them being pretty even in yours and childress gone, that should make harvin better, plenty of reasoning behind it.

[beggarmike]

Veto it.

As a Commish myself, I've seen plenty of "Give-away" trades. This is one of those.

It even a tougher job, seeing as the entire league is family.

Beggar_Mike

[Indibuck]

The only time I am in favor of vetoing a trade is if I suspect collusion. You sniffed it out, asked both owners involved, and made the correct decision IMHO.