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Postby Sex Panther » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:37 am

I need to clarify, my org. post may have been slightly misleading - What I was trying to say (nad meant by steal) is pretty simple... depending on what happens hen player movement is (finally) allowed to happen, and depending on what happens to either guy's situation (ie where DeAngelo ends up & who is Larry's QB), IMO both have legit shots at finishing at #1 at their respective positions... in my mind, that would make them steals (probably more so in DeAngelo case based on ADP).

Larry is typically listed as what, somewhere in the neighborhood of the 5th-7th WR taken? AJ, Roddy, Calvin, Nicks, then the arguement can be made for Fitz (or Jennings/Austin/Bowe/etc.)

And DWill maybe in the late teens-early 20's in terms of RB?

Last year I snagged Roddy White in 3 of 4 leagues, I took him mid 2nd in 1, mid 3rd in another, and late 3rd in the 3rd. The way he preformed (for the vast majority of the year), he outpreformed his draft position, IMO making him a steal - not on the level of Foster/Hillis/Vick/Lloyd, but a steal none the less.

I should probably eliminate the word "absolute" from the title of this thread.

That make more sense?
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby LMack » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:42 pm

Sex Panther wrote:And DWill maybe in the late teens-early 20's in terms of RB?


Fantasyfootballcalculator currently has DeAngelo Williams going at the end of the 4th round (48.6). Even if he goes to Denver and reunites with John Fox, I don't think he will creep up into the second round after last years injury history. As far as the potential Denver backfield goes, DWill would get to be the 1st and 2nd down back with Knowshon Moreno taking 3rd down duties. DeAngelo Williams has shown his value in the RZ, and he should get those touches. But the wildcard in the rushing touchdown scenario is Tim Tebow. If Kyle Orton leaves via free agency.. who knows how that will work.

If DWill leaves Carolina, I think that Johnathan Stewart has a good chance to outperform his ADP of currently 46.6 too. The Daily Show should be able to handle lead back duties should he get the chance.

I don't expect the ADP of these two backs to stay low forever, though. After free agency settles and the roles of both become clearly defined, I'd expect them both to move up to around the 3rd round.
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Postby Mr.Joshua » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:52 am

If DWill is gone, Im seeing JStew going early 2nd ;-D
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby Indibuck » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:52 pm

Mr.Joshua wrote:If DWill is gone, Im seeing JStew going early 2nd ;-D


If DWill is gone, then I see Mike Goodson being a possible draft day steal, especially in PPR leagues. He did well enough to show he can carry the load for a couple of games if needed and can be a nice complement to Stewart otherwise.
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby LMack » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:26 pm

Mr.Joshua wrote:If DWill is gone, Im seeing JStew going early 2nd ;-D


I agree JStew will demand a higher price tag than DWill, rightfully so. I'm wary of all the foot, toe, and heel injuries that The Daily Show has had. But, looking at the back end of the RB1's, he is no more of an injury risk than McFadden, Gore, Turner, or Jackson.
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby m16a » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:51 pm

Indibuck wrote:
Mr.Joshua wrote:If DWill is gone, Im seeing JStew going early 2nd ;-D


If DWill is gone, then I see Mike Goodson being a possible draft day steal, especially in PPR leagues. He did well enough to show he can carry the load for a couple of games if needed and can be a nice complement to Stewart otherwise.


Goodson is being taken awfully late, and I definitely like him in PPR. He showed solid ability, and could be a great change of pace guy. In fantasy he'll most likely end up being an RB4 type, flex, and bye week fill in with some RB2 upside. He's a good dynasty pick too, quite young. He'll have some good draft day value for sure.
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby Wenchtamer » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:36 am

LMack wrote:DeAngelo Williams has shown his value in the RZ, and he should get those touches. But the wildcard in the rushing touchdown scenario is Tim Tebow. If Kyle Orton leaves via free agency.. who knows how that will work.


That's a good point. I imagine Tebow would snipe a bunch of goalline TDs from whoever Denver's RB is.

And everyone already beat me to mentioning Mike Goodson. I think Stewart would be early second round material if he didn't always get hurt. But Goodson's ADP is 12.07? Give me Goodson in the 11th all day versus Stewart anywhere in the first 4 rounds. Goodson was still putting up ~RB3 numbers when they were splitting carries in the second half of the year. Factor in Stewart's propensity for injury and you have a possible RB2 that late. Now think about Carolina getting Otah back and if Newton can do better than Clausen (shouldn't be too difficult). I'm definitely targetting Goodson in any redraft.
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Re: @ guys that could be absolute draft day steals IMO...

Postby Wenchtamer » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:38 am

Plus Goodson looked downright sick on some plays last year. He could be the next Arian Foster. If only he had an Andre Johnson on his team...
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