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Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby bmault » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:56 pm

I have the first pick in a 10 team non PPR. I was set on AP, esp after Foster hurt his hammy, but after reading up on MAtthew Berry's page, he makes a good argument for Vick #1 overall. If I took Vick at 1 I could still land a solid WR/RB at the turn between rds 2 and 3 as my league likes to draft QB's early.


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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby c0megets0me » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:14 pm

Forget about that game he had against the Redskins, look at the end of the season, Giants gave the blueprint to stop vick by forcing him to run to his right and the Viks follows that and shut him down. Look for other teams to watch those games a follow. It was new and caught teams off guard last year, but def cordinators prob spent the off season figuring out how to stop vick. Plus Vicks style of play is what makes him so good but its also why him will prob miss some time due to injury. If thats not enough risk to change your mind then maybe he is your guy. I just dont want a risky pick in the 1st rnd when there are rock solid players to be had. I think AP or Rice would be a much better pick. good luck
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby bisklimpkit » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:28 pm

If I've got the first pick, I'm going for the most consistency with the highest ceiling. Based on the last few years, Adrian Peterson is the guy to go with. He doesn't share carries, doesn't have a goal-line back to vulture TDs away, and catches passes. If you were at the end of the first round Vick might be a practical pick, but AP is guaranteed money barring injury and he's been able to stand up quite well to this point.
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby mtlenway » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:44 pm

Once teams figured out they need to blitz him, he stuggled. Last year was the best year of his career. After this year Andy Reed is gonna be saying why didn't I stick with Kevin Kolb. Not only that there are plenty top tier QB's to be had i.e: Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rivers in the second and third round. However, there are only AP and Foster for top tier RB (at least until CJ decides he is gonna play football)
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby bungle613 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:08 am

You won't win your league. Did that work? :-b
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby Smackola » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:52 am

1 - Vick has never played a whole season

2 - he got his huge contract, he can rest easier

3 - are you serious?

4 - Aaron Rogers > Vick all day

5 - are you joking?

6 - why would you even consider taking him #1 ?

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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby B3N1ZJAM1N » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:48 am

bungle613 wrote:You won't win your league. Did that work? :-b


Figured I would be the only one brutal enough to say this, but exactly. Vick is good, and will be good, but no that good.
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby sixer03fan » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:41 am

I actually like Matthew Berry and he makes some great points to taking Vick #1. However, there are just as many counter arguments which have been shared here so far. If you do want Vick, trade down. I took Vick #9 in my draft, ahead of Rodgers. I didn't love the RB's available at 9, so I basically flipped a coin between Vick and Rodgers, went with Vick. It's risky but what the hell.

Here's what I would do if you want to take a QB with your first pick. Trade down to ~8 or so, Rodgers and/or Vick should still be available, I'd be pretty certain of that. I'd ask to swap 1st round picks, and then get their 4th round pick or something. Or swap first and seconds with the guy. You want to either acquire an extra pick early on, or swap an early even round pick so you get a better pick in that round assuming it's a snake draft.

I don't think strategically it's in your best interest to just take Vick #1 overall without trying to trade down and acquire a better pick later.
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Re: Talk me out of taking Vick with #1 overall

Postby petedog9 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:14 am

You lost me at " I actually like Matthew Berry"..................
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