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What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby FatFoot » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:12 pm

What happens now?

Decker's garbage game last week wasn't Tebow's fault, purely. But I have to think that the guy will be less of a passer than Orton.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby Wolfpac11680 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:51 pm

Kills it, he is droppable in anything less then a 14 team league (even then its possible)

Tebow is all hype and teams will have a "book" on him within 2-3 weeks
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:10 pm

Decker did nothing with Orton for 2.5 quarters and then nothing with Tebow for 1.5 quarters. I'd say given his very hot start, he's worth a wait and see. I don't think I would drop him just yet.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby LeBron James » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:03 am

Decker had the great chemistry with Orton, not Tebow. And also Eddie Royal coming back and Demaryius Thomas coming back soon too.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby mattb47 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:29 pm

LeBron James wrote:Decker had the great chemistry with Orton, not Tebow. And also Eddie Royal coming back and Demaryius Thomas coming back soon too.


That carries the assumption that just because he had chemistry with Orton that he won't with Tebow. I think this has to be a wait and see approach for at least a couple weeks before you jump off the train.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:47 pm

mattb47 wrote:
LeBron James wrote:Decker had the great chemistry with Orton, not Tebow. And also Eddie Royal coming back and Demaryius Thomas coming back soon too.


That carries the assumption that just because he had chemistry with Orton that he won't with Tebow. I think this has to be a wait and see approach for at least a couple weeks before you jump off the train.


Actually I am told that Decker spent the majority of the (admittedly shortened) offseason with the second team offense, and that he had a lot of work with Tebow in particular. Will that translate to the kind of production we saw from him with Orton in there? Only time will tell. I just wouldn't automatically rule it out since Orton was actually a bigger factor in his goose egg this week.

Also I don't think Decker's value is threatened, in particular, by either Royal or Thomas, as he seems to be the slot guy regardless.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby dgan » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:48 am

I haven't pulled it yet, but I'm ready...

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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby jcgage0 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:24 am

I would not drop him yet, but I think there is a good chance we are dropping him in a week or two. Sell high if you can.

Although...If Lloyd were to get traded I would not be so quick to pull the trigger if he has a bad game or two.
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby latsprewell20002000 » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:39 am

jcgage0 wrote:I would not drop him yet, but I think there is a good chance we are dropping him in a week or two. Sell high if you can.

Although...If Lloyd were to get traded I would not be so quick to pull the trigger if he has a bad game or two.


You mean WHEN Lloyd is traded lol..
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Re: What will Tebow do to Eric Decker's Value?

Postby JeRmZ » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm

Lloyd has been traded. Decker at this point becomes the #1 by default ...

Tebow will run ... a lot ... but don't be fooled by the over thinkers! Tebow is a gamer and has a pretty decent long ball. In Fact Decker was a fingertip away from catching about a 40 yard strike in week 5 from Tebow. After the two get some time in practice and a few games under them .. I think Decker's value goes up ... THEN it goes up more again when Demaryius Thomas get's back on field (which is rumored to be this week at Miami).


Wolfpac11680 wrote:Tebow is all hype and teams will have a "book" on him within 2-3 weeks


I love this ^^^^^ ... you sound like all the over paid analysts employed by the networks.

let me preface the next section by saying that in NO WAY am I a "tebownite" .... in fact I hated the kid, hated the Gators (Go NOLES), wanted him to get smashed in the mouth every saturday in hopes to see him cry like he did after that Alabama SEC Championship game. BUT you can not discredit ANYTHING the kid has done in his career.

Teams will have a book on him within 2-3 weeks?? Ya don't say??
Are you implying that once those teams have said book that Tebow will be crushed and will not be a QB? Are you implying that Tebow can't adjust to defenses that adjust to him? Are you implying that Tebow does not know how to play the game of Football from the QB position?? Let me show (incase) they've been forgotten ... some of Tebows accomplishments

Career Accomplishments
• Heisman Trophy Award Winner (Heisman Trophy Trust)
• Davey O’Brien Award winner (ESPN Home Depot College Football Awards)
• Maxwell Award winner (ESPN Home Depot College Football Awards)
• Player of the Year (Associated Press)
• All-American First-team (Associated Press)
• Academic All-American First-team (ESPN the Magazine)
• All-American team (Football Writers Association of America)
• All-American team (ESPN.com)
• Offensive Player of the Year (CBS Sportsline.com)
• All-American team (CBS Sportsline.com)
• All-American First-team (SI.com)
• All-American First-team (Sporting News)
• All-American First-team (CollegeFootballNews.com)
• All-American First-team (Phil Steele)
• Offensive All-American (Walter Camp Foundation)
• Manning Award finalist (Allstate Sugar Bowl)
• SEC Offensive Player of the Year (AP)
• All-SEC First-team (AP)
• All-SEC First-team (Coaches)
• All-SEC team (Lindy’s)
• SEC Player of the Year (Lindy’s)
• National Offensive Player of the Week for Sept. 17, 2007 (The Walter Camp Foundation)
• National Offensive Player of the Week for Nov. 11, 2007 (The Walter Camp Foundation)
• Semifinalist for Player of the Year award (The Walter Camp Foundation)
• Offensive Player of the Week for Sept. 17, 2007 (Southeastern Conference)
• Offensive Player of the Week for Sept. 24, 2007 (Southeastern Conference)
• Offensive Player of the Week for Nov. 12, 2007 (Southeastern Conference)
• All-American First-team (Rivals.com)
• SEC Offensive Player of the Year (Rivals.com)
• All-SEC First-team (Rivals.com)
• All-SEC First-team (Phil Steele)
• Midseason All-American (SI.com)

Season Accomplishments
• Only player in NCAA Div. I history with at least 20 rushing and 20 passing touchdowns
• Tied the all-time Div. I mark for rushing touchdowns a quarterback in a single season (22)
• SEC single-season record holder in total touchdowns with 51 (29 passing, 22 rushing)
• UF single-season rushing touchdown leader (22)
• Leads the SEC in total offense (330.8) and pass effi ciency (177.85)
• First in the conference in completion percentage (68.5)
• Single-season SEC rushing touchdown record holder of any player in league history with 22
• Has a 13-game streak with at least one rushing and one passing touchdown
• Only quarterback in school history to reach the century mark in rushing yards twice
• UF record-holder in rushing attempts (27) and yards (166) in a single game by a quarterback with his effort against Ole Miss
• Set the UF single-game rushing record with five touchdowns against South Carolina and tied three others in Florida history for single-game scoring accountability with seven total touchdown


NOW ... you'll say oh yes, but look at all the RUNNING ACCOMPLISHMENTS listed there ... and yes your right, he likes to run (and he's pretty good at it too) so let's take a look at his career stats for passing ...

TEBOW IN THE SEC
Total Offense (330.8) = 1st
Passing Efficiency (177.85) = 1st
Completion Rate (68.5) = 1st
Total Scoring (130) = 1st
Scoring (TD’s) (11.0) = 1st
Rushing Touchdowns (22) = 1st
Touchdown Accountability (51) = 1st
Rushing (69.8) = 9th
Passing (261.0) = 2nd

TEBOW IN THE NATION
Rushing Touchdowns (22) = 3rd
Touchdown Accountability (51) = 1st
Total Offense (330.8) = 7th
Passing Efficiency (177.85) = 2nd
Points Responsible For (25.50) = 2nd
Completion Rate (68.5) = 5th
Scoring (TD’s) (11.0) = T3rd
Rushing among QB’s (69.8) = T5th
Passing Yards Per Game (261.0) = 22nd

CAREER PASSING STATISTICS
Year Att Cmp Yds Pct. Int TDs
2006 33 22 358 66.7 1 5 - Primary QB was Chris Leak
2007 317 234 3,132 68.5 6 32
2008 298 192 2,746 64.4 4 30
2009 314 213 2,895 67.8 5 21
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Tot.: 995 661 9,285 66.4 16 88



Ranked 1st in the SEC for Completion rating, and 5th in the Nation? yet he can't throw?
Ranked 1st in the SEC for Efficiency, and 2nd in the Nation? yet he can't throw?
He held an average 66.4 completion % throughout his college career? and yet he can't throw?

and let's not forget the #1 most important stat for a QB ...

The Gators were a respectible 35-6 with Tebow as the starter ...
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