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Postby Free Bagel » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:55 pm

I'm not quite sure if this is the right forum for this or not, but it seems like it is. I don't think it should go in classifieds since I'm not advertising for a league, but rather looking for input on building a website for it. I thought I remembered seeing a similar post here not too long ago, but I did a search and couldn't find anything.

Anyway, here's the deal.

I've been looking for a steady keeper league for a long time running now, but haven't found one that interests me.

I'm fairly decent at building websites, and have been commish of many leagues in the past, so I figured why not make my own. Starting this early should give me more than enough time to build a nice looking website and find dedicated members. But, I had a few questions first.

How do people that host their own keeper leagues incorporate stats and points? By this I mean, do you have to go through every team in the league, look at each of their player's stats for that week, and give points? Or is there someway to incorporate a script for this that automatically updates like yahoo, cbs, etc. If there's not already one out there, would there be anywhere that I could use to feed the stats into a script I wrote on my own?

Same questions for the draft at the start of the year (though this is less important because we could just use yahoo to draft and then I could plug the players into their teams on my site based on that).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:28 pm

wow...no one?
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Postby Guest » Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:33 pm

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Postby 49ers Forever » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:56 pm

Hey, I don't have an answer to your question, but I know where you might be able to get one. Playfantasy.com is a new league with a very responsive administrator. It is their first year, and the admin has responded to all problems very fast, and corrected any issues just as fast. Go to the site, register (it's free) and go to the FF section, post a message titled PFAdmin. In that message, tell him what's up and give him your email address, I am sure he will respond to you and give you all the info you need.
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Postby 49ers Forever » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:57 pm

And, if you are looking for dedicated coaches, I would like to be put on the list, I HATE two of the leagues I am in.
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Postby RWLongy4 » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:15 pm

ditto to that ^
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:39 pm

Thanks 49ers, I asked at that site, but the forums looked pretty dead, last post was October 10th...maybe I was in the wrong forums (PFMembers group).

Anyhow, I'd rather go ahead and build the website and make sure I can get those scripts running (they made be outside my scope of knowledge) before I look for any coaches though.

If I do get it done though (probably a few months away at least) I would be advertising here first, so if you hang around these boards you should see it.
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Postby Go Vikes » Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:03 pm

49ers Forever wrote:And, if you are looking for dedicated coaches, I would like to be put on the list, I HATE two of the leagues I am in.


I would possibly like to join.
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Postby DirtyDog » Thu Dec 04, 2003 6:43 pm

This is topic I also have been very interested in.

I currently run a 6 year old keeper league and have had the luxury of having an excellent owner create and run a website. He did all the scripts and I believe he pays for the stats from a service, probably in the neighborhood of $70-100 per year. He gets the raw stat data each week in a delimitted format and imports the data to his site via his scripts where he assigns points to each player by the rules of the league.

The league is at:

http://www.dbragg.com/kfl

At some point my good fortune of having him run the website may run out and I will have to do the same as you. The key issue I see is the stats. One option is to pay for the stats from a service. Another option is the very manual method of combing through the boxscores which is not an option. A third option is to write some scripts to parse boxscores and derive the stats, this is better but not perfect.

I have mulling a 4th option which I find interesting which is starting a stats co-op. This would be a website where one or two dozen contributing members who would voluntarily update the raw data for players (close to real-time, in-game updates ok) each week into a MYSQL database for everyone to download a delimitted data file. As the games get completed, the stats would pretty much be available immediately. Not everyone would have to contribute every week, but hopefully enough members would update the data to make it useful.

There are alot of caveats here and it would take alot of cooperation, but the benefits would be excellent. I would not think there would be any legal issues as there would be no money derived from the stats. It would have to be agreed to all to be unofficial and someone would have to be the final authority. There would also have to be ways to identify contributors who enter purposely incorrect data and deny their access rights.

I really have no idea whether its a good idea or not, but it would be a good fit for your league and possibly mine.

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Postby Budman_ffc » Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:14 pm

I posted a similar set of questions about a week ago. I had read several posts about people setting up a keeper league using the the Yahoo system integrated with a Yahoo Group page. I was looking for info on how this was done, but didn't get much help.

Anyone have some info on this?
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