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Postby Ricky P » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:02 am

Alright, 12 team Yahoo league standard scoring -

Team:

QB: Matt Hasselbeck, Carson Palmer
RB: Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Earnest Graham, Jonathan Stewart, DeMarco Murray, Tashard Choice
WR: S. Smith (Car), Plaxico Burress, Arelious Benn, Steve Breaston, Mario Manningham
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Ben Watson
K: Nick Novak
D: Dallas, San Francisco

Starting: Hasselbeck, Smith/Breaston/Benn, Rice/McFadden, Watson, Graham/Murray, Novak, Dallas
Bye: Manningham, Gronkowski

I have really nothing going on at WR, and besides the two monsters at RB - no real depth there after the next couple weeks. Do I flip Ray Ray for some quality WR's and maybe more? Or sit on this and let the two beasts go to work. (DMC bye week next week) If you think I should flip him, who should I target?

Thanks for the input.
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby rclement3915 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:07 am

i would NOT trade Rice unless your netting Megatron.

You have solid RB depth....and Graham and Murray should have increased value, try to package one of them and a wr for a upgrade.



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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Stevooo » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:33 am

Agreed, Rice is BAL's offense so dont trade him unless its for Calvin. As stated above try to package some other RBs/WRs for a solid WR. Help with mine? viewtopic.php?f=19&t=504793
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby MadDog36 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:25 pm

If you are dealing Rice you have to get a WR AND RB back.
Megatron would be a solid WR for Rice but you'd also need a startable RB back in the deal. Maybe someone like Wells or Daniel Thomas or Mathews.
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Mal » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:39 pm

You did a good job getting Rice let him get you those 20s. Keep him.

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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Ricky P » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:06 pm

I offered a trade:

Ray Rice
Steve Smith
Mario Manningham

for

Calvin Johnson
Ryan Matthews
Julio Jones

Doubt he'll agree but I wanted to put the feeler out there. He agreed to come up with some packages around Rice and Megatron so we'll see what he counters with. I'm assuming he's not accepting this...
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Ricky P » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:39 am

I'm in trade talks with the Megatron owner.... Here are his offers:

Calvin Johnson
Maurice Jones-Drew

for

Darren McFadden
Steve Smith
(possibly a sweetener here)

Or

Calvin Johnson for Ray Rice

I pretty much will not deal McFadden under any circumstance, I love him and think he's an absolute beast but that deal is making me think. And will not trade Rice unless I get a WR and RB in return. His RB's are MJD, Ryan Matthews (who he's high on), Deji Karim, Danny Woodhead, CJ Spiller.
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Ricky P » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:41 am

He's also very WR heavy:

Calvin Johnson
Miles Austin
Dwayne Bowe
Jacoby Jones
James Jones
Julio Jones

So if I were to offer a trade like: Ray Rice/Steve Smith for Miles Austin/Ryan Matthews or something like that, would that work or is Rice too valuable to give up at this point? Check up top I'm obviously desperate for some WR help.
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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby GiantsGuy18 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:03 pm

Ricky P wrote:He's also very WR heavy:

Calvin Johnson
Miles Austin
Dwayne Bowe
Jacoby Jones
James Jones
Julio Jones

So if I were to offer a trade like: Ray Rice/Steve Smith for Miles Austin/Ryan Matthews or something like that, would that work or is Rice too valuable to give up at this point? Check up top I'm obviously desperate for some WR help.


That trade is not a good idea for you at all. I actually like the McFadden/Smith for Calvin Johnson/MJD trade. Yes McFadden is a beast, but the upgrade you get at WR far outweighs what you lose going from him to MJD.

Look at it this way:

Here's what you have right now:
McFadden averages 17.5 points per game
Rice averages 19 points per game
Smith averages 14 points per game
Breaston (highest of your other WRs) averages 7 points per game
Total: 57.5

After the trade:
Rice - 19
MJD - 13
Johnson - 18.5
Smith - 14
Total 64.5

See what I mean? Go for it.

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Re: Just Got Ray Rice - Flip Him? Need Some Help - I'll Help

Postby Ricky P » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:18 pm

GiantsGuy18 wrote:That trade is not a good idea for you at all. I actually like the McFadden/Smith for Calvin Johnson/MJD trade. Yes McFadden is a beast, but the upgrade you get at WR far outweighs what you lose going from him to MJD.

Look at it this way:

Here's what you have right now:
McFadden averages 17.5 points per game
Rice averages 19 points per game
Smith averages 14 points per game
Breaston (highest of your other WRs) averages 7 points per game
Total: 57.5

After the trade:
Rice - 19
MJD - 13
Johnson - 18.5
Smith - 14
Total 64.5

See what I mean? Go for it.

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I see you included Smith in that total, but he's included in that trade. It's SMITH/DMC for Johnson/MJD. If I put Breaston in there at 7, it'd total 57.5 also.
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