moochman wrote: Wearing out your opponent is a vital part of a winning strategy. I liken it to boxing. Take out the body and the head will follow. hit them in the torso enough and they start to slow down. Same with QBs, hit them hard enough and they slow down, some will ever start hearing footsteps.
And that's where we're both on the same page - that's how football should be played, hit hard but don't aim for the head and don't use your own head/helmet as a weapon.
The funny thing is, I can remember watching and loving football before players became missiles. I just wonder how many would enjoy if that style of tackling was no more.
But you can still launch yourself like a missile, just gotta hit with your shoulder instead of your head, and don't nail the other guy in the head - a lotta guys do that anyway simply outta self-preservation.
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Judge overturns Saints suspensions September 7, 2012, 3:49 pm By JP Finlay CSNwashington.com
Player suspensions from the NFL investigation into bounty-related rule violations by New Orleans Saints players have been overturned by a three-member panel, according to a report from Sports Illustrated.
Word of the overturned suspensions emerged on Twitter Friday afternoon from Sports Illustrated reporter Jim Trotter. Once Trotter said that the suspensions will be overturned, suspended Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma reacted with a "Victory is Mine" tweet that sent the social media site into a frenzy.
Vilma was scheduled to be suspended for the entire year for violations of the NFL bounty policy. Saints defensive lineman Will Smith was scheduled for a four-game suspension, while former Saint and current Brown linebacker Scott Fujita and former Saint and current Packer defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove were due to miss eight games each.
Reaction to the ruling from the NFL had not emerged by Friday afternoon, and word from the Saints on what, if any, role Vilma or Smith will have in this weekends game against the Redskins has not been reported.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this. As I read about this elsewhere, it seems there were two violations alleged to be committed by the Saints personnel involved. The first involves player safety; the second involves the actual money being transferred in the bounty. The appeals court overturned the suspensions because it had an issue with Goodell potentially imposing a suspension for the money aspect of the bounty - not the player safety aspect.
Goodell is entitled to suspend players when illegal* acts are committed that affect player safety. He is entitled to fine players and organizations for transferring funds outside the scope of their contracts - that is illegal. But he is not entitled to suspend for that and his prior decision to suspend was unclear as to how the punishment was divided between the two infractions.
Players will play in Week 1, but a suspension could still follow. This isn't over.
* illegal is my word - not likely the right word, but you get the point.
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joejlitz wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with this. As I read about this elsewhere, it seems there were two violations alleged to be committed by the Saints personnel involved. The first involves player safety; the second involves the actual money being transferred in the bounty. The appeals court overturned the suspensions because it had an issue with Goodell potentially imposing a suspension for the money aspect of the bounty - not the player safety aspect.
Goodell is entitled to suspend players when illegal* acts are committed that affect player safety. He is entitled to fine players and organizations for transferring funds outside the scope of their contracts - that is illegal. But he is not entitled to suspend for that and his prior decision to suspend was unclear as to how the punishment was divided between the two infractions.
Players will play in Week 1, but a suspension could still follow. This isn't over.
* illegal is my word - not likely the right word, but you get the point.
Which brings to the forefront the matter of evidence. Does Goodell have any? Is it admissible and strong enough to uphold any other punative actions the sheriff would want to take? My hope is that, being a creature of habit, he has already destroyed any supposed evidence and has nothing now to work with. The league may need to be more careful moving forward. If they start trying to issue out justice without enough proof the courts may want to take a closer look at the interworkings of professional sports. Certainly nobody wants to see that happen.*
*granted, wild speculation and fairly unlikely.
The other side of the coin here is what do the players do? Were they allowed to practice with their teams while suspensions were being challenged? Why not? Do they now have legal recourse? Does a team dare field them and risk the wrath of Goodell? It is starting to look as if the man tarnishing the image of the league is Goodell. Fire Goodell! No, seriously, they need to evaluate his effectiveness at this point.
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Paul Tagliabue vacates all player penalties in New Orleans Saints bounty scandal By Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on December 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, updated December 11, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue made a drastic change in the New Orleans Saints bounty scandal as the NFL announced all suspensions and penalties for Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma and defensive end Will Smith, along with former linebacker Scott Fujita and defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove have been vacated.
Here's what NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wrote on Tagliabue's decision via Twitter Tuesday afternoon: "Tagliabue affirms factual findings of Commissioner Goodell...concludes Hargrove, Smith, Vilma 'engaged in conduct detrimental' and vacates all player discipline.
"Unlike Saints' broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects. My (Tagliabue) affirmation of Commissioner Goodell's findings could certainly justify the issuance of fines. However, this entire case has been contaminated by the coaches and others in the Saints' organization."
Check back for more details on NOLA.com as the story develops.
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