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Different Strategy. 12/12 Selection

Postby Mizou » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:31 pm

Yahoo standard format/scoring. Starting is 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, and 1 W/R/T (also Def and K).

Decided to try out something being discussed in the Football Talk forum. Position was 12 out of 12 teams, and the idea is to take both Graham and Gronkowski, to start one at the Flex position. The idea is that the top players at most positions are already gone (Brady/Brees/Rodgers; Foster/Rice/McCoy), and WR is deep this year, and RB is exceedingly ugly after the first tier. Instead of throwing darts blindly trying to get a good RB with the ones left, instead take a guy you know will put up good points in the Flex spot.

Here's how it turned out:

QB: Rivers (could've been Ben, Ryan, was aiming for Romo)

WR: Miles Austin, Eric Decker, Reggie Wayne, Lance Moore, Nate Washington, Brian Quick

(First WR could have been Nelson, Colston, Harvin, Wallace, Maclin)

RB: Doug Martin, Willis McGahee, David Wilson, Toby Gerhart, (Could have had St. Jax, Turner, Bradshaw, or Gore as the first RB)

TE: Jimmy Graham

W/R/T: Rob Gronkowski

D/ST: Dallas

K: Walmart Employee


Some of the selections can be adjusted for taste (I listed alternates for my 3/4 loop picks). Overall, I don't feel too poorly. RB was a lot better than I had thought it would be at the first two picks (3 and 5), though WR dropped a little from my expectations. Only thing I would've done really different was take Randall Cobb instead of Brian Quick.

Here's the breakdown:

Round 1
(1) KYas MaChineS - Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
(2) Swingingpickle - LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB)
(3) Santana - Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
(4) Phee - Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
(5) Tartan Terror - Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)
(6) WDF Raize - Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
(7) mike - Tom Brady (NE - QB)
(8) Buddy Love - Drew Brees (NO - QB)
(9) Frankie D - Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB)
(10) Josh - Ryan Mathews (SD - RB)
(11) Pat - Matthew Stafford (Det - QB)
(12) James - Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)


Round 2
(1) James - Jimmy Graham (NO - TE)
(2) Pat - Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)
(3) Josh - Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)
(4) Frankie D - Matt Forte (Chi - RB)
(5) Buddy Love - Trent Richardson (Cle - RB)
(6) mike - Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
(7) WDF Raize - Cam Newton (Car - QB)
(8) Tartan Terror - Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB)
(9) Phee - Roddy White (Atl - WR)
(10) Santana - DeMarco Murray (Dal - RB)
(11) Swingingpickle - Brandon Marshall (Chi - WR)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Andre Johnson (Hou - WR)


Round 3
(1) KYas MaChineS - Greg Jennings (GB - WR)
(2) Swingingpickle - Julio Jones (Atl - WR)
(3) Santana - Michael Vick (Phi - QB)
(4) Phee - Victor Cruz (NYG - WR)
(5) Tartan Terror - Darren Sproles (NO - RB)
(6) WDF Raize - Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
(7) mike - Wes Welker (NE - WR)
(8) Buddy Love - A.J. Green (Cin - WR)
(9) Frankie D - Steve Smith (Car - WR)
(10) Josh - Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR)
(11) Pat - Fred Jackson (Buf - RB)
(12) James - Miles Austin (Dal - WR)


Round 4
(1) James - Doug Martin (TB - RB)
(2) Pat - Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
(3) Josh - Demaryius Thomas (Den - WR)
(4) Frankie D - Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
(5) Buddy Love - Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
(6) mike - Steven Jackson (StL - RB)
(7) WDF Raize - Marques Colston (NO - WR)
(8) Tartan Terror - Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
(9) Phee - Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)
(10) Santana - Percy Harvin (Min - WR)
(11) Swingingpickle - Mike Wallace (Pit - WR)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR)


Round 5
(1) KYas MaChineS - Frank Gore (SF - RB)
(2) Swingingpickle - Reggie Bush (Mia - RB)
(3) Santana - Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
(4) Phee - Antonio Brown (Pit - WR)
(5) Tartan Terror - Vernon Davis (SF - TE)
(6) WDF Raize - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Cin - RB)
(7) mike - Kenny Britt (Ten - WR)
(8) Buddy Love - Brandon Lloyd (NE - WR)
(9) Frankie D - Tony Romo (Dal - QB)
(10) Josh - Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR)
(11) Pat - Peyton Manning (Den - QB)
(12) James - Philip Rivers (SD - QB)


Round 6
(1) James - Eric Decker (Den - WR)
(2) Pat - Roy Helu (Was - RB)
(3) Josh - Aaron Hernandez (NE - TE)
(4) Frankie D - DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)
(5) Buddy Love - Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)
(6) mike - Fred Davis (Was - TE)
(7) WDF Raize - Stevie Johnson (Buf - WR)
(8) Tartan Terror - Darrius Heyward-Bey (Oak - WR)
(9) Phee - Jermichael Finley (GB - TE)
(10) Santana - Shonn Greene (NYJ - RB)
(11) Swingingpickle - Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Jay Cutler (Chi - QB)


Round 7
(1) KYas MaChineS - Brandon Pettigrew (Det - TE)
(2) Swingingpickle - Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
(3) Santana - Stevan Ridley (NE - RB)
(4) Phee - Isaac Redman (Pit - RB)
(5) Tartan Terror - C.J. Spiller (Buf - RB)
(6) WDF Raize - San Francisco (SF - DEF)
(7) mike - Robert Meachem (SD - WR)
(8) Buddy Love - Torrey Smith (Bal - WR)
(9) Frankie D - Matt Ryan (Atl - QB)
(10) Josh - Robert Griffin III (Was - QB)
(11) Pat - Beanie Wells (Ari - RB)
(12) James - Willis McGahee (Den - RB)


Round 8
(1) James - Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
(2) Pat - Jonathan Stewart (Car - RB)
(3) Josh - Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)
(4) Frankie D - Michael Bush (Chi - RB)
(5) Buddy Love - DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB)
(6) mike - Baltimore (Bal - DEF)
(7) WDF Raize - Jacob Tamme (Den - TE)
(8) Tartan Terror - Ben Tate (Hou - RB)
(9) Phee - Jahvid Best (Det - RB)
(10) Santana - Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)
(11) Swingingpickle - Donald Brown (Ind - RB)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Chicago (Chi - DEF)


Round 9
(1) KYas MaChineS - Mason Crosby (GB - K)
(2) Swingingpickle - Green Bay (GB - DEF)
(3) Santana - Mark Ingram (NO - RB)
(4) Phee - Pierre Garcon (Was - WR)
(5) Tartan Terror - Titus Young (Det - WR)
(6) WDF Raize - Josh Freeman (TB - QB)
(7) mike - Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K)
(8) Buddy Love - Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
(9) Frankie D - Denarius Moore (Oak - WR)
(10) Josh - David Akers (SF - K)
(11) Pat - Sidney Rice (Sea - WR)
(12) James - David Wilson (NYG - RB)


Round 10
(1) James - Lance Moore (NO - WR)
(2) Pat - Malcom Floyd (SD - WR)
(3) Josh - Peyton Hillis (KC - RB)
(4) Frankie D - Jacquizz Rodgers (Atl - RB)
(5) Buddy Love - Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE)
(6) mike - Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR)
(7) WDF Raize - Eddie Royal (SD - WR)
(8) Tartan Terror - Seattle (Sea - DEF)
(9) Phee - James Starks (GB - RB)
(10) Santana - Felix Jones (Dal - RB)
(11) Swingingpickle - Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Greg Little (Cle - WR)


Round 11
(1) KYas MaChineS - Justin Blackmon (Jac - WR)
(2) Swingingpickle - Mike Williams (TB - WR)
(3) Santana - Kevin Smith (Det - RB)
(4) Phee - Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)
(5) Tartan Terror - Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
(6) WDF Raize - Davone Bess (Mia - WR)
(7) mike - Mikel LeShoure (Det - RB)
(8) Buddy Love - LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB)
(9) Frankie D - Rashad Jennings (Jac - RB)
(10) Josh - Anquan Boldin (Bal - WR)
(11) Pat - Tim Hightower (Was - RB)
(12) James - Toby Gerhart (Min - RB)


Round 12
(1) James - Nate Washington (Ten - WR)
(2) Pat - Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)
(3) Josh - Santana Moss (Was - WR)
(4) Frankie D - Houston (Hou - DEF)
(5) Buddy Love - Michael Crabtree (SF - WR)
(6) mike - Carson Palmer (Oak - QB)
(7) WDF Raize - Greg Olsen (Car - TE)
(8) Tartan Terror - Ronnie Hillman (Den - RB)
(9) Phee - Dan Bailey (Dal - K)
(10) Santana - Michael Floyd (Ari - WR)
(11) Swingingpickle - Jermaine Gresham (Cin - TE)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Pierre Thomas (NO - RB)


Round 13
(1) KYas MaChineS - Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)
(2) Swingingpickle - Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)
(3) Santana - Detroit (Det - DEF)
(4) Phee - Brent Celek (Phi - TE)
(5) Tartan Terror - Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
(6) WDF Raize - Emmanuel Sanders (Pit - WR)
(7) mike - Jared Cook (Ten - TE)
(8) Buddy Love - Dallas Clark (TB - TE)
(9) Frankie D - John Kasay (NO - K)
(10) Josh - Coby Fleener (Ind - TE)
(11) Pat - Randy Moss (SF - WR)
(12) James - Brian Quick (StL - WR)


Round 14
(1) James - Dallas (Dal - DEF)
(2) Pat - Arizona (Ari - DEF)
(3) Josh - Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buf - QB)
(4) Frankie D - Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR)
(5) Buddy Love - New York (NYJ - DEF)
(6) mike - Laurent Robinson (Jac - WR)
(7) WDF Raize - Jason Hanson (Det - K)
(8) Tartan Terror - Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
(9) Phee - Nate Burleson (Det - WR)
(10) Santana - Dan Carpenter (Mia - K)
(11) Swingingpickle - Mario Manningham (SF - WR)
(12) KYas MaChineS - Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE)


Round 15
(1) KYas MaChineS - New England (NE - DEF)
(2) Swingingpickle - Neil Rackers (Was - K)
(3) Santana - Rueben Randle (NYG - WR)
(4) Phee - Sam Bradford (StL - QB)
(5) Tartan Terror - Mike Nugent (Cin - K)
(6) WDF Raize - Leonard Hankerson (Was - WR)
(7) mike - Rob Bironas (Ten - K)
(8) Buddy Love - Billy Cundiff (Bal - K)
(9) Frankie D - Austin Collie (Ind - WR)
(10) Josh - Matt Bryant (Atl - K)
(11) Pat - Robbie Gould (Chi - K)
(12) James - Graham Gano (Was - K)
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Re: Different Strategy. 12/12 Selection

Postby twes » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:51 pm

I actually had the good fortune of having both Graham and Gronk on my fantasy team last year and they won me the championship.

While you are solid at the TE and flex, I think your WRs are just fine as well and should put up steady numbers. Rivers is really underrated and for how long you were able to wait to get him, he is definitely a solid choice.

Your RBs suffered but you predicted that from the start of the draft. Picking impact players is always important and with the 12/12 pick you have to make sure you don't just grab a washed up running back or a low 1st tier QB. If you stay active on the waivers and if your RBs turn out to have the potential they are expected to have, this team could do some damage.

Thanks for the help on mine!
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Re: Different Strategy. 12/12 Selection

Postby gatorbite35 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:53 pm

It's an interesting idea and one I will probably execute if I'm in that position. Your rb is obviously thin. I'm cool with Mcgahee, but not so sure on Doug Martin, especially without Blount on your roster. I'll be targeting Doug Martin in my future drafts, but probably as my 2nd or 3rd RB in a 12 team league.

If you're not too confident in Martin, then I would highly consider flipping one of your stud TE's for a tier 1/1.5 rb.


Btw, thanks for the in depth review of my 8 team draft. And yes, you were correct in guess my team(G).

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Re: Different Strategy. 12/12 Selection

Postby Mizou » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:21 pm

gatorbite35 wrote:It's an interesting idea and one I will probably execute if I'm in that position. Your rb is obviously thin. I'm cool with Mcgahee, but not so sure on Doug Martin, especially without Blount on your roster. I'll be targeting Doug Martin in my future drafts, but probably as my 2nd or 3rd RB in a 12 team league.

If you're not too confident in Martin, then I would highly consider flipping one of your stud TE's for a tier 1/1.5 rb.



Would you feel more comfortable with Steven Jackson, or Turner as the RB1? I had the option of either of them, but in this mock, decided to go with the youthful upside, and the fact that Martin looks to be the starter. In a real draft, I might pick St. Jax instead.
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