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McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby oxhammer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:44 pm

I was offered McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby. My team is 2-4 so I can't afford to lose many more games. McFadden has underperformed so far this year. But, he has a much easier schedule the rest of the way. Philly has a tougher schedule and is a team in disarray. But, the Raiders just aren't good and we know McFadden is fragile. Rolling with two Eagles players every week seems a bit risky as well, even though I've been starting Fitz some based on matchups. Both Raiders have already had their bye week though. I have too many players on bye for week 10, so this would compound that. Difference between the top kicker and bottom kicker is only 3 points a week, so I'm not really concerned about them or should I be? Should I make the trade? Counter offer?


14 team, Head to Head league, Non-keeper
50 passing yards = 1 point
20 rushing/receiving yards = 1 point
Touchdown = 6 points
Interception/Fumble = -2 points
Return Touchdowns = 6 points
2-Point Conversions = 2 points

My team
QB - Michael Vick
WR - Mike Wallace, Mike Williams
RB - Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris
TE - Jimmy Graham
W/T - Jermichael Finley
W/R - Stephen Hill
K - Sebastian Janikowski
D - Arizona
BN - James Starks (RB), Brian Hartline (WR), Ryan Fitzpatrick (QB)

His team
QB - Matt Ryan
WR - Brandon Lloyd, Sidney Rice
RB - LeSean McCoy, Ryan Mathews
TE - Fred Davis
W/T - Denarius Moore
W/R - DeMarco Murray
K - Mason Crosby
D - Oakland
BN - Jonathan Stewart (RB), Pierre Garcon (WR), Josh Freeman (QB)
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby mpt3489 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:48 pm

The kickers are equal in value. I think McFadden and McCoy are both RB1, but I think McCoy is the better player. I would do this trade.

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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby BigFin13 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:14 pm

I agree. Do the deal. McCoy is going to get more carries because Vick is taking a beating and he is going to need get support from the running game or the Eagles are going nowhere. Andy Reid is shaking things up, firing his D coordinator, which shows he understands the need for change. If this is the case, changes are coming to the offense even if they are subtle. I think one of those changes is a slight altering of their philosphy, which is more emphasis on the run. McCoy is just too dang talented to not utilize properly. I think they will. Again, do the deal. ;-D

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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby SirGrotius » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:52 pm

Wait, you get McCoy? Of course you do this deal!

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10 receiving yards - 1 pt
20 passing yards - 1 pt
All TDs - 6 pts (QBs favored)
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby MetsAllTheWay » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:54 pm

Do this deal ASAP. McCoy >> McFadden. Kickers are both middle of the road and wouldn't let them hold up a deal anyway. Thanks for your help on mine
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby oxhammer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:26 pm

Okay, you've got me convinced about the trade value being in my favor. Factor this in though, I cannot afford to throw this weekend's game away. Yahoo has my current roster projected at 66 points and my opponent at 52. Put Starks in DMC's place, bench Graham. Now, I'm at 50 points. My opponent could pick up a kicker still. I could be a proud McCoy owner with a 2-5 record and a playoff berth not likely. Would you still make the trade?

His team
QB - Matt Hasslebeck
WR - James Jones, Hakeem Nicks
RB - Marshawn Lynch, Maurice Jones-Drew
TE - Jared Cook
W/T - Kenny Britt
W/R - Ben Tate
K - ???
D - Seattle
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby jberends » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:37 pm

This is tough for sure.
I still think you have to take the trade. I understand the risk in this week. I would do the deal.

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QB - Newton, Palmer
RB - R. Matthews, Martin, Stewart, F. Jones, B. Brown
WR - Julio, Austin, Maclin, Heyward-Bey, Amendola, D. Alexander
TE - Graham
D/ST - Bears
K - Tynes
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby c0megets0me » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:08 pm

This is easy...........Who cares about the damn kickers they are a dime a dozen. So who is the better RB? answer...McCoy
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby oxhammer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:17 pm

c0megets0me wrote:This is easy...........Who cares about the damn kickers they are a dime a dozen. So who is the better RB? answer...McCoy


What isn't easy if making the playoffs with a 2-5 record. That means closing out the season 5-1. Does McCoy give me that much more upside than McFadden to be able to pull that off?
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Re: McFadden/Janikowski for McCoy/Crosby - WHIR

Postby prophecy135 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:23 pm

oxhammer wrote:Okay, you've got me convinced about the trade value being in my favor. Factor this in though, I cannot afford to throw this weekend's game away. Yahoo has my current roster projected at 66 points and my opponent at 52. Put Starks in DMC's place, bench Graham. Now, I'm at 50 points. My opponent could pick up a kicker still. I could be a proud McCoy owner with a 2-5 record and a playoff berth not likely. Would you still make the trade?

His team
QB - Matt Hasslebeck
WR - James Jones, Hakeem Nicks
RB - Marshawn Lynch, Maurice Jones-Drew
TE - Jared Cook
W/T - Kenny Britt
W/R - Ben Tate
K - ???
D - Seattle

You might lose anyway if you dont do the trade.. I dont know why you'd bench Graham, he hasnt been ruled out yet.. Yeah, it sucks to play starks, but I do think McCoy is a slight upgrade to McFadden though not by nearly as much as others here.. I think its very close between the two ROS mainly due to strength of schedules. its hard to say go ahead with it especially considering your record, if you do it you will probably lose, but you could lose regardless.

I honestly feel like this trade is a trade to make a trade. The kickers are w/e, and I dont think theres that much difference between McCoy and McFadden. I think the fact that McCoy is on a bye is a deal breaker for me at this point considering your situation. If you were 6-0, 5-1 or even 4-2 I think its completely different. IF you want to do this deal I think you NEED to press this guy for more, look at his roster, he has NO RB's to play this week..
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