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Postby dramamine » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:23 am

A friend of mine and I are having a dispute about the equality of a trade, so we throw it up to the hive mind to help settle it. 14 team auction league of friends that is only moderately competitive, with some members that are very active and some that are essentially inactive. Does this trade seem fair to you? We start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, no flex, non-ppr. Leave a link, will help in return.

Team 1 gives: Trent Richardson, RB and Jacoby Jones, WR
Team 2 gives: Montee Ball, RB and Stevie Johnson, WR

Top waiver wire options at WR- Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Gibson, Eddie Royal, Doug Baldwin, Jerome Simpson, Jermaine Kearse, Greg Little
Top Waiver wire options at RB- Jackie Battle, Da'Rel Scott, Vick Ballard, Knowshon Moreno, Ronnie Hillman, Ronnie Brown, Kendall Hunter,

Team 1
QB- Colin Kaepernick
QB- Ryan Tannehill

WR-Dwayne Bowe
WR- Ryan Broyles
WR- Brandon Lafell
WR- Jacoby Jones
WR- Donnie Avery

RB- Arian Foster
RB- Trent Richardson
RB-Johnathan Dwyer

TE- Jordan Cameron
TE- Brent Celek

K- Steven Hauschka
k- Robbie Gould

Def- Minnesota
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Team 2
QB-Robert Griffin III
QB-Michael Vick

WR-Brandon Marshall
WR-Andre Johnson
WR-Eric Decker
WR-Stevie Johnson
WR-Tavon Austin
WR-Robert Woods

RB-Eddie Lacy
RB-Monte Ball
RB-Christine Michael

TE-Tony Gonzalez

K-Justin Tucker

DEF-St. Louis
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby Ziov » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:44 am

Trent alone is considerably more valuable than Team 2's entire offering, in my opinion. But despite that I guess I'd let it go through.. just someone being stupid, unless you have reason to believe otherwise.
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby TheOnlyCorwin » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:07 am

Team 1's WR are garbage but I don't know why anyone would give up Trent for Stevie and Ball.
I wouldn't block this trade myself, seeing as maybe one sees buying low on Trent and the other sees buying low on Montee Ball... I mean.. it's close, but I wouldn't unless you know it's colusion.
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby LebronVoldemort » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:16 pm

I think the trade is fair as far as value is concerned because Ball is going to be the best RB in Denver, and the WRs for team #1 are just atrocious. I would just be worried about how good this trade makes team #2. Do you suspect foul play? If not I would say that you have to let it go through.
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby cjm3113 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:19 am

I would let it go through based on rosters, but I would never trade Richardson for those two.
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby dramamine » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:32 am

The two team owners are brothers. The brother that benefits is an active, knowledgable fantasy player and the brother that gets the worse end of the deal is far less active or knowledgable. I guess I cannot protect someone from their own foolishness, I just will need to probably consider looking for a more aware replacement for next year to help avoid this kind of thing in the future.
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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby Verdun Barbarians » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:09 am

The problem with trades is tht we should not look for fairness, but for collusion. If you have real doubts someone is trying to help another player by "giving" him a player, you could object. But in this case, it just looks like a bad trade.


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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

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Re: Trade Fairness Dispute Help WHIR

Postby ramble2 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:14 pm

Verdun Barbarians wrote:The problem with trades is tht we should not look for fairness, but for collusion. If you have real doubts someone is trying to help another player by "giving" him a player, you could object. But in this case, it just looks like a bad trade.


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This sounds right to me. You can't legislate away stupidity (in trading), but you can prohibit collusion. The problem is that trying to prove collusion is difficult, and can lead to hurt feelings in a league of friends.

In my leagues (with friends) we sometimes have a rule that allows the commissioner to strongly recommend modifying hugely unbalanced trades, with the idea being that people will generally accept the revision or come up with their own modified proposal. That's generally done with the idea that keeping a league friendly is more important than winning, but you should still allow people to make (what look to everyone else like) dumb decisions. But a rule/tradition like that is something you probably need to work out ahead of time. Sucks but you probably need to let the trade go through. Anyways, though we all think we know better, by the end of the season it could turn out in a completely unexpected way.
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