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Postby moochman » Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:39 pm

Any thoughts on this. Brady was third, then Lewis.
Not to sound like Brett Favre, but I would've gone with McNair over Manning. Manning has a lot of tools to work with. Anyway, it's debatable. Who do you guys will be the playoffs MVP?
I have to say that since I predicted the Iggles to make it to the SB in the preseason, I will chose McNabb. he looks like he is warming up and even though Westbrook may miss the playoffs, Pinkslip..er...Pinkston seems to be getting open. Wide open race though.
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Postby Shatner8 » Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:54 pm

I think this was a good decision, they both deserved to be MVP and this way they both are MVP's. Playoff MVP i think will be Mcnair because i still believe that the Titans will win the superbowl this year
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Postby mannubhai » Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:56 pm

McNair and Manning both deserved to be MVP . McNair for his toughness, and Manning for his pure class.
I am surprised McNabb did not get a single vote.
Also Lewis land, Ray and Jamal pretty much cancelled out each other. The AP defensive player of the year and AP Offensive player of the year. I think it is rare. I will settle for that.
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Postby fntsyrookie » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:01 pm

I don't have any problems with the McNair and Manning being co-MVPs. I think both deserve the honor.

As for the playoff MVP? Tough call. I'm thinking Brady will probably get it. New England is going to be tough, and as long as he puts up decent #s I think they'll give it to him.
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Postby maddog60 » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:22 pm

I think the co-MVP was a good idea. Manning reached an impressive mark with his 5th 4000+ yard year, and McNair was just amazing this year. However I am extremely disappointed in one award particularly:

Jamal Lewis getting Offensive Player of the Year. Just looking at running backs, there is no way he deserves it. Yes, he broke 2000 rushing yards, but his total yardage (rush + receive) didn't equal the amount that LT had.

LT had a beat up offensive line, no defense to keep them in close games where running is more preferred, so even matching Jamal Lewis's numbers would make his year impressive. However, on top of that, he managed to score more TDs, and had 0 fumbles, compared to Jamal Lewis's 6.

Also, how about Preist Holmes. His total yardage may have been about 150 shy of Jamal's, but scoring nearly twice as many TDs, and fumbling only 1 time makes him a lot more impressive. Jamal seems to be getting all this attention b/c he almost broke the rushing record, and b/c he was the 5th man to go over 2000 rushing yards. Well, Priest did break a record, and quite an impressive one at that. He broke two, the single season rushing TD record, and the single season total TD record.

A case could also be made for Ahaman Green.

Is there anyone else who feels that while Jamal's season was incredible, there were more deserving?
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Postby Shatner8 » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:25 pm

I think Randy Moss also deserved recognition for offensive player of the year. He averaged 100 yards and a touchdown a game, thats very impressive. I agree that Jamal Lewis was not even the best RB, so he should not have gotten offensive player of the year.
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Postby Free Bagel » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:58 pm

I think the tiebreaker should be that Manning beat Mcnair head to head twice ;).

Why don't they do MVP voting like heisman voting, where you rank your top 3-5? That would definitely help to prevent ties.
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Postby deftdelivery » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:28 pm

good tie...I guess...altho I hate to see it

McNair will get playoffs MVP
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Postby mannubhai » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:45 pm

deftdelivery wrote:good tie...I guess...altho I hate to see it

McNair will get playoffs MVP


Only if they beat the Ravens this weekend..which is very unlikely.
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Postby Shatner8 » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:48 pm

mannubhai wrote:
deftdelivery wrote:good tie...I guess...altho I hate to see it

McNair will get playoffs MVP


Only if they beat the Ravens this weekend..which is very unlikely.


I tend to disagree, I thought the Titans were the best team the 1st half of the year, adn if they play like they did then, they will win it all IMO. Mcnair is also my pick for Playoff MVP
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