dont forget Williams

[TTTBone]

Excellent move, now if Snyder can just sit in his Luxary Box and stay the hell out of the way.
Vermeil, Parcells, Gibbs... the old school guys still know how to coach today's players. Bring on Ditka, Walsh and Madden.

[Chopper]

... Bring on Ditka, Walsh and Madden.

and Tom Flores.
What's he doing nowadays that could be more important?

[terpfan]

yeah williams was a great signing that ALOT of other teams wanted. thats kind of lost in all this.

and yes TTTBone, gibbs knows how to use his rbs. u can be sure of that. be it cartwright, betts, dillon, or a top rook like kevin jones or steven jackson.

[dgroundhog_ffc]

I'm a little surprised by the old-school movement that seems to be afoot in the NFL.

Kids these day can't coach for s#it.

I think the D-Co-ordinator is the biggest key to turning things around next year. Williams has to be drooling ove the list of players he has to work with. In a couple years the O should be back in shape, but the D needs to step up and kick ass NOW.

[KingGhidra]

I'm a little surprised by the old-school movement that seems to be afoot in the NFL.

Kids these day can't coach for s#it.

I think the D-Co-ordinator is the biggest key to turning things around next year. Williams has to be drooling ove the list of players he has to work with. In a couple years the O should be back in shape, but the D needs to step up and kick ass NOW.

They've had some of the best defensive players on paper for a few seasons now. Even Marvin Lewis could only get them to play above average. Those old men and overpaid dlineman they've had the last few seasons is what's really killed the players. Defense is all about the dline and the secondary. After that, all you need are 3 guys at the LB position who can tackle a guy before the first down marker and you're good to go.