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Postby TTTBone » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:57 pm

Wow, long thread for an Arizona post. :-°
Anyhow, I think Denny Green's public vote of confidence for Josh McNown, signals his willingness to trade the Cardinals first pick. This public affirmation of McNown at this point says to me, "we don't want Eli or Ben with our pick, what do you have to offer?" I fully expect Arizona to try to work a trade, however, if it can't get done, look for Fitz to go to Zona. Boldin and Fitz are a scary tandem, but is McNown up to it?
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Postby awwchrist » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:24 pm

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Lushcrush wrote:While this is a healthy debate no doubt, no one has mentioned another exercise of Arizona lunacy. Not too long ago they offered the QB coach position to none other than ESPN resident blowhard and all around idiot Sean Salisbury. Is that crazy or what? He wasn't any good when he played. What could possibly make him a viable candidate for the QB coaching position, besides the PR? What was up with that? :-°


Great players don't always make great coaches. Average players sometimes do make great coaches. Denny Green obviously felt he'd be a good QB coach. It's hard to judge what a guy can do by listening to him on ESPN, but I respect his opinions.

I see your point, but at the same time if he was coaching material I wonder why nobody has picked him up in the last 8 years?


Seems to me his name is on the candidate list of a few jobs every season.

Could be he hasn't got a job on his own terms.
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Postby Free Bagel » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:48 pm

Canadian_Cheesehead wrote:Apparent lack of talent? The very idea is preposterous. You want some lack of talent look at last years draft. Only Newman, Rogers, A. Johnson, and Leftwich are looking like high prospects that will be studs.

This is one of the best drafts in recent memory.
You have:
2 Blue-chip QB prospects (Manning and Roethlisberger)
3 Elite WR Prospects (Fitzgerald and Roy and Reggie Williams)
The best TE prospect Ever (Winslow Jr.)
2 Franchise offensive tackles (Gallery and Andrews)
2 Very Good RB prospects (Jackson and Jones)
2 Very Good Defensive Tackles (Harris and Wilfork)
The best Safety prospect ever (Sean Taylor)
A wild card potential stud in Clarett
The best kicker prospect in recent years (Kaeding)
(Yea I know its just a kicker)
2 Highly Touted DE prospects (Udeze and W. Smith)

The only 2 potential areas of weakness are CB (where Gamble, Robinson, and DeAngelo Hall are still exceptional) and LB (Where Vilma and DJ Williams are no slouchs in their own rights)


Sorry for getting so into this but I feel really strongly about this.


Eh, this seems a little over the top....Best TE and Safety prospects EVER? I think you may be pushing your luck there....RB's and D-linemen are weak by most year's standards (although RB's have been weak the last few years). Remember last year when everyone was trading up to a top 10 pick just so they could get the 5th best D-lineman available? This year the first one might not be taken until #10...

Also, I wouldn't call Reggie Williams and elite WR prospect when there's no talk of him going top 10...Elite seems to me top 3-5...ala rogers and johnson last year, and fitz this year, though I think Roy Williams will also make a great NFL WR...

I think what PP is saying is that if they don't take a QB at #3, they can't really justify taking anyone else except MAYBE Gallery (though they've been drafting lots of o-linemen recently).

Fitz won't fall and they don't need Taylor because they have safeties. No D-linemen can be justified going anywhere near #3, and #3 is to high for Roy Williams who is projected around #8 in most drafts. No CB's worthy of a top 5 pick a la Newman last year. They've already got an above average TE, etc.

Basically, their options are very limited, even trading down will be difficult because SD is looking to trade away a better pick...
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Postby Go Vikes » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:13 am

Canacuna wrote:Canacuna's Latest Fantasy Football QB Rankings...

1. Daunte Culpepper
2. Peyton Manning
3. Josh McCown

...The rest don't matter - you're pretty much screwed without one of these three on your roster.


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Postby Go Vikes » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:14 am

I really think mccown could be good. He beat the Vikings, didn't he?
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Postby M_Zimm_ffc » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:44 am

Go Vikes wrote:I really think mccown could be good. He beat the Vikings, didn't he?

What's your point?
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Postby Shatner8 » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:48 am

Go Vikes wrote:I really think mccown could be good. He beat the Vikings, didn't he?


Thats only one game man, he looked really bad in alot of other games
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Postby M_Zimm_ffc » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:55 am

Shatner8 wrote:
Go Vikes wrote:I really think mccown could be good. He beat the Vikings, didn't he?


Thats only one game man, he looked really bad in alot of other games

Not to mention he beat the Vikes on a pass that went to the guy Denard Walker was covering...
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Postby Strider » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:59 am

i think josh would do a better job if they drafted some better wrs like fitz
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Postby Go Vikes » Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:30 am

M_Zimm wrote:
Shatner8 wrote:
Go Vikes wrote:I really think mccown could be good. He beat the Vikings, didn't he?


Thats only one game man, he looked really bad in alot of other games

Not to mention he beat the Vikes on a pass that went to the guy Denard Walker was covering...


Yeah. He stinks. Draft Ben
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