KingGhidra wrote:Screw 40 times, screw 3 cone drills and screw vertical leaps. Football isn't played in a straight line with no pads. I remember watching VT games and being impressed with him IN GAMES. Maybe he is one of those guys who doesn't lose much off his normal speed when in pads during the pressure of a game.
I couldn't agree more... Take a look at this article from last year, fellas, and then tell me how important combine and pro-day stats REALLY are:
I realize this post is specifically intended to counter the fact that the combine numbers are overrated so I'm going on a tangent here. But regarding SI's analysis, I especially like this in their list of negatives:
That's Boldin's strength now. I remember on one of the pregame shows last season (ESPN's, I believe) they mentioned that it was Boldin's route running that put him ahead of the game vs. other rookie WRs. Specifically the fact that he can make an accurate break at full speed which is what causes separation from the DBs.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Slinger I know what your talking about, and im pretty sure it was on ESPN Countdown, Ya they went on about how his route running was superior and his breaks out of cuts was good... But those numbers that Jones put up are useless, TJ Duckett ran a 4.45 at the combine 2 years ago and Im pretty sure hes not faster than Ricky Williams who runs about the same 40 time....
I thought Steven Jackson was the better back all along. Jones should be a steal in the 20's and he will likely go to either NE or Dallas. Please somebody convince me Dallas would pass on Kevin Jones, no matter what his 40 times were.
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More news on Kevin Jones' 40 times (not for the better)...
ProFootballTalk wrote:On Thursday, we posted the slower-than-expected 40-yard dash times of Virginia Tech running back Kevin Jones, virtually as they were generated. In three tries on a fact track, Jones was clocked in the 4.5s, with one effort possibly in the high 4.4s.
Given that Jones has been advertised as a 4.3 guy with a history of 4.1s and 4.2s, the effort was poor.
Another league source tells us that some stopwatches showed Jones' times as even slower -- 4.61, 4.64, and 4.65.
More problematic for Jones is the fact that, when a guy runs on artificial turf (as Jones did on Thursday) as opposed to grass, a tenth of a second gets added to the time.
Scouting 101 -- when a player runs on anything other than grass, which is regarded as the slowest surface, the times are adjusted accordingly. Since FieldTurf simulates grass, no change is made. For artificial turf, a tenth of a second is added. For a track, up to 0.15 gets tacked onto the time.
For Jones, then, his officials times were as low as 4.6 and as high as 4.75, which is horrendous for a so-called speed back and poor for any running back.
these combine times can be quite misleading, like Suggs last year who after a poor combine fell out of the top 5 then to what 10th or 11th? and he came back and had a great rookie season. Im not overly impressed with Jones but if he fell to a teaam like the Pats, I think he could make some noise.
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